A couple thoughts

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1. Zhang Zhong Jing...anyone?.....anyone?.....anyone?.,.....

 

The Gui Zhi/Bai Shao combination for harmonizing the ying and wei is from

the Shan Han Lun. Thats probably where the " dui yao book " got it from.

Unfortunately here in the west we do not study the Shan Han Lun enough. It

lays the entire foundation for pairing and coupling of herbs. Just like the

use of bai shao/gan cao for pain.....shan han lun. I realize there are many

other schools of thought bu the Shan han Lun is critical as a foundational

text in this regard.

 

2.Move before you tonify.......???????

 

I heard this same general rule at school..Ours was modified slightly to

" Always Move before you tonify " ....I think this as a general rule is a good

practice for herbal medicine. More stagnation can be created if you tonify

without moving. Also combination treatment is appropriate. They may be too

deficient to move anything.

 

3. Substance abuse or mind expansion???

 

With all due respect I do no think the guy looking to treat excessive

consumption in a pub was going for expansion of consciousness....I am all

for altered states...I think these guys were going for contracting their

perception rather than expansion........Kelly

 

 

 

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Kelly,

I too greatly revere Zhang Ji's texts. When I was quoting Sionneau's Dui

Yao book to Z'ev, I wasn't implying that it was the source text for the

concept. I was just quoting a quick, concise source to make a point

regarding Ying/Wei and Gui Zhi/Bai Shao & Sheng Jiang/Da Zao. I do also

agree with you that the SHL is a foundational text for Chinese Herbal

Medicine, and that it is not studied enough in the current American TCM

schools- though I must say that at PCOM, many instructors including Z'ev

and Todd frequently discuss and refer to the SHL.

Kip

 

 

> [Original Message]

> Kelly Welch <kdwelch25

>

> 5/24/01 6:32:55 AM

> A couple thoughts

>

> 1. Zhang Zhong Jing...anyone?.....anyone?.....anyone?.,.....

>

> The Gui Zhi/Bai Shao combination for harmonizing the ying and wei is from

> the Shan Han Lun. Thats probably where the " dui yao book " got it from.

> Unfortunately here in the west we do not study the Shan Han Lun enough.

It

> lays the entire foundation for pairing and coupling of herbs. Just like

the

> use of bai shao/gan cao for pain.....shan han lun. I realize there are

many

> other schools of thought bu the Shan han Lun is critical as a

foundational

> text in this regard.

>

> 2.Move before you tonify.......???????

>

> I heard this same general rule at school..Ours was modified slightly to

> " Always Move before you tonify " ....I think this as a general rule is a

good

> practice for herbal medicine. More stagnation can be created if you

tonify

> without moving. Also combination treatment is appropriate. They may be

too

> deficient to move anything.

>

> 3. Substance abuse or mind expansion???

>

> With all due respect I do no think the guy looking to treat excessive

> consumption in a pub was going for expansion of consciousness....I am all

> for altered states...I think these guys were going for contracting their

> perception rather than expansion........Kelly

>

>

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