Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 I've seen quite a bit of traffic on here about treating Cannabis addictions. However, what about properly using it for medicinal purposes? Is it still addicting? I know that, for some unexplained reason, using opiates is addicting but if used for pain, they are not. e.g. - my MD prescribed opiates for me - they did nothing for my pain, but they did give me the expected SEVERE constipation (I had to resort to sennocides to keep things moving along). After several months of this, the MD & I decided that opiates did me no good, I could stop taking it. I was more than happy to do so and I CLEARLY had no addiction to it. I'm wondering if that applies to Cannabis, too? I know from others in my situation that it IS very helpful for this kind of pain (CPS) but I've been reluctant to try it because I certainly didn't want to become addicted to it. Thanks in advance Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 , zooky <z00ky> wrote: > > I'm wondering if that applies to Cannabis, too? I know from others in my > situation that it IS very helpful for this kind of pain (CPS) but I've been > reluctant to try it because I certainly didn't want to become addicted to it. cannabis is not addictive in the technical sense. people have a hard time quitting but it does not cause withdrawal symptoms. It affects a completely different part of the brain than other habit forming substances such as heroin, nicotine, alcohol and cocaine. Addiction is considered a nonissue when using substances for pain. The oregon board of medicine says addiction accurs in less than 1% of people treated for pain even with morphine. The eclectic herbalists in 19th century america recommended cannabis over opiates hands down because it does not impair digestion. That doctors can prescribe opiates but not cannabis in america is malpractice in my opinion. Since smoking cannabis depletes the yin, it should be used with yin tonics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 --- wrote: >Since smoking cannabis depletes the yin, it should be used with yin tonics. OOOPS! Great input - I'll take that into consideration if I decide to go that way. THANKS! Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 btw - what form is the best? My preference is to take it in tincture form. But, I don't know if the active ingredients are soluable in ethanol. Acetate, perhaps? I would prefer not to smoke it - for obvious reasons. If not ethanol or acetate soluable, do I need to resort to an infusion or fudge? If tincture or acetate is fine, dosage? Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Opiates always have an addictive propensity, whether used for pain or recreationally. The statistics are that if 100 of us were put in a room and fed opiates, about 4 of us would become addicted. this is irrelevant to social circumstances etc. You were just one of the 96!! Cannabis is less addictive but no lees than nicotine. I see patients who are on opiates, or methadone for chronic pain and there is certainly an addictive problem present. There is also now increasing evidence that chronic cannabis use leads to loss of motivation and short term memory/concentration. Carolyn Eddleston zooky <z00ky Friday, June 22, 2001 8:50 AM Wanted: Cannabis info >I've seen quite a bit of traffic on here about treating Cannabis addictions. >However, what about properly using it for medicinal purposes? Is it still >addicting? I know that, for some unexplained reason, using opiates is >addicting but if used for pain, they are not. e.g. - my MD prescribed opiates >for me - they did nothing for my pain, but they did give me the expected SEVERE >constipation (I had to resort to sennocides to keep things moving along). >After several months of this, the MD & I decided that opiates did me no good, I >could stop taking it. I was more than happy to do so and I CLEARLY had no >addiction to it. > >I'm wondering if that applies to Cannabis, too? I know from others in my >situation that it IS very helpful for this kind of pain (CPS) but I've been >reluctant to try it because I certainly didn't want to become addicted to it. > >Thanks in advance > > > >Get personalized email addresses from Mail >http://personal.mail./ > >Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 --- Carolyn Eddleston <coast wrote: > There is also now increasing evidence that chronic cannabis use leads to > loss of motivation and short term memory/concentration. That's really not a concern for me. My PCP has me on industrial strength anti-depressants (for the SSRI content - as a weapon aginst CPS - it helps a tad) - that pretty much gets rid of any motivation. My stroke destroyed short/long term memory. So as long as I have those two anyway, adding in just one more thing shouldn't affect it ALL that much. Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 I have found that marijuana, when not used too often, helps increase my awareness in ways that go way beyond ordinary thinking. If I do it every day, which is abusing it, my motivation decreases dramatically. But if I only do it occasionally, like once a week or once a month, I get deluged with these remarkable ideas, and sit behind my computer and work wonders. But if I do it the next day, the magic is gone. It really depends on the drug, your personality, your body, your current state of mind, and the current condition your body is in. But when it's all 'just right', you see very clearly and become this channel that the entire universe works through. --- Carolyn Eddleston <coast wrote:> There is also now increasing evidence that chronic cannabis use leads to> loss of motivation and short term memory/concentration.That's really not a concern for me. My PCP has me on industrial strengthanti-depressants (for the SSRI content - as a weapon aginst CPS - it helps atad) - that pretty much gets rid of any motivation. My stroke destroyedshort/long term memory. So as long as I have those two anyway, adding in justone more thing shouldn't affect it ALL that much.Get personalized email addresses from Mailhttp://personal.mail./Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 , " Carolyn Eddleston " <coast@c...> wrote: > > Cannabis is less addictive but no lees than nicotine. that is totally incorrect. nicotine is more addictive than heroin and cannabis does not cause withdrawal, though it does often (but not always) cause side effects when used regularly, such as amotivation syndrome. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 , " Lee Lieske " <leelieske> wrote: > I have found that marijuana, when not used too often, helps increase my awareness in ways that go way beyond ordinary thinking. If I do it every day, which is abusing it, my motivation decreases dramatically. > > But if I only do it occasionally, like once a week or once a month, I get deluged with these remarkable ideas, and sit behind my computer and work wonders. But if I do it the next day, the magic is gone. > > It really depends on the drug, your personality, your body, your current state of mind, and the current condition your body is in. > > But when it's all 'just right', you see very clearly and become this channel that the entire universe works through. > I agree. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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