Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 At PCOM today, we were debating the efficacy of treating candida overgrowth using chinese herbs alone. Candida overgrowth, as it occurs in modern patients, may not have existed in ancient times. Here's my reasoning. The herbs that are used to treat infections in TCM tend to have broad spectrum effects against a wide range of microorganisms. An herb like huang lian is equally effective against many bacteria, viruses, fungi and yeast. So when one uses such an herb to treat dampheat, it is unlikely that either antibiotic resistance or candida infestation will result. while such an herb will destroy beneficial flora, it will not leave candida untouched nor will it completely eliminate all the bacterial flora. Because of this, the remaining bacteria will keep all the remaining yeast in check and the normal balance will be restored over time. However, modern use of antibiotics can virtually destroy all the beneficial bacteria while leaving yeast untouched. This allows for yeast to overwhelm the intestines after prolonged or recurrent treatment with antibiotics. Naturopaths use a combination of subtonics to kill the yeast while simultaneously restoring microflora with acidophilus. Now, the question is whether the normal balance can be restored with herbs alone in such cases. In other words, how will herbs restore the microflora. Candida cases often present with some degree of dampheat, possibly as gu syndrome. If the gut has minimal bacteria and lots of yeast, using herbs that kill yeast will also kill bacteria and the abnormal balance will be maintained (i.e. relatively high yeast and relatively low microflora). While there are traditional fermented foods that contain microflora (yogurt, miso, sauerkraut), these have not been shown very effective at recolonization. Has anyone found herbs alone to be effective? Have you confirmed this with stool culture? Do most use acidophilus? How would we identify the need for acidophilus from a purely TCM perspective? How would we classify acidophilus in TCM? -- Chinese Herbs VOICE: (858) 946-0070 FAX: (858) 946 0067 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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