Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 Hiya, I have a patient with some Qi stagnation type constipation. I added a wee bit 'o Da Huang and Fan Xie Ye to a formula made up of predominately Qi activators. The patient is pleased with the results, but asked about the habit forming potential of the purgatives. I didn't honestly have a good answer for him. Has anybody seen patients grow reliant on purgative herbs? Thanks. -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > > Has anybody seen patients grow reliant on purgative herbs? > shouldn't be a problem if you address the root. Question is where the qi stag comes from. liver constraint, qi xu, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 on 8/24/01 3:19 PM, Al Stone at alstone wrote: > Hiya, > > I have a patient with some Qi stagnation type constipation. I added a > wee bit 'o Da Huang and Fan Xie Ye to a formula made up of predominately > Qi activators. The patient is pleased with the results, but asked about > the habit forming potential of the purgatives. > > I didn't honestly have a good answer for him. > > Has anybody seen patients grow reliant on purgative herbs? > > Thanks. Yes, with overuse they can cause the bowel to become atonic, just like cascara. long term use of Da huang also causes tissue change's in the bowel wall. even a relatively mild rx such as ma zi ren wan will have this effect. best for short term use Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 Al Patients will eventually habituate to the stimulant purgatives, like da huang, so ideally they should be gradually withdrawn as the underlying problem is corrected. Will , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > Hiya, > > I have a patient with some Qi stagnation type constipation. I added a > wee bit 'o Da Huang and Fan Xie Ye to a formula made up of predominately > Qi activators. The patient is pleased with the results, but asked about > the habit forming potential of the purgatives. > > I didn't honestly have a good answer for him. > > Has anybody seen patients grow reliant on purgative herbs? > > Thanks. > -- > Al Stone L.Ac. > <AlStone@B...> > http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2001 Report Share Posted August 24, 2001 In a message dated 8/24/01 4:28:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, herbbabe writes: << on 8/24/01 3:19 PM, Al Stone at alstone wrote: > Hiya, > > I have a patient with some Qi stagnation type constipation. I added a > wee bit 'o Da Huang and Fan Xie Ye to a formula made up of predominately > Qi activators. The patient is pleased with the results, but asked about > the habit forming potential of the purgatives. > > I didn't honestly have a good answer for him. > > Has anybody seen patients grow reliant on purgative herbs? > > Thanks. Yes, with overuse they can cause the bowel to become atonic, just like cascara. long term use of Da huang also causes tissue change's in the bowel wall. even a relatively mild rx such as ma zi ren wan will have this effect. best for short term use Cara Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2001 Report Share Posted August 28, 2001 Fan Xie Ye >>>Is very habit forming and also damages the intestines Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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