yunnan Pai yao

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I am not sure if every doctor can list every ingredient in every drug they

prescribe. I think they mostly know the category, its functions, how it

works etc but can they list the ingredients? I do not know the answer.

 

My Yunnan Pai Yao reads:

Notoginseng root 40%

Herb of Clarke 17%

Chinese Yam 13

Wild Yam 10

Geranium 7.2

Lesser galangal root 6.0

Ox gall 5

 

thats 98.2% total....the rest is chong qi.

 

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Does anyone know what " Herb of Clarke " is? Is the Chinese also listed?

I can't find Herb of clarke in any of my English language Chinese

medicinal books. I'm alos not sure what " Wild Yam " is. Even if the

name of the ingredient is known, if one can't find out any information

on that ingredient, I believe there is still both a legal and an

ethical problem in prescribing that medicine.

 

Bob

 

, " Kelly Welch " <kdwelch25@h...> wrote:

> I am not sure if every doctor can list every ingredient in every

drug they

> prescribe. I think they mostly know the category, its functions,

how it

> works etc but can they list the ingredients? I do not know the

answer.

>

> My Yunnan Pai Yao reads:

> Notoginseng root 40%

> Herb of Clarke 17%

> Chinese Yam 13

> Wild Yam 10

> Geranium 7.2

> Lesser galangal root 6.0

> Ox gall 5

>

> thats 98.2% total....the rest is chong qi.

>

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Hi Bob,

 

I'm hearing that " Herb of Clarke " is a local yunnan province herb :

character translation is San yu cao (boea clarkeanna Hemsl. San Xue Cao

is the primary name in the book.

 

Wild Yam is

 

Doing the math analysis on Yunnan Paiyao (manufactured by Yunnan

Paiyao Group Co. Ltd, Kunming, China :

 

Notoginseng root 1.6 gm 40.73%

Herb of Clarke .68 gm 17.31%

Chinese Yam .52 gm 13.24%

Wild Yam .4 gm 10.18%

Geranium Plant .288 gm 7.33%

Lesser Galangal root .24 gm 6.11%

Ox Gall .2 gm 5.09%

 

Total 3.928 gm 99.99%

 

 

 

>Does anyone know what " Herb of Clarke " is? Is the Chinese also listed?

>I can't find Herb of clarke in any of my English language Chinese

>medicinal books. I'm alos not sure what " Wild Yam " is. Even if the

>name of the ingredient is known, if one can't find out any information

>on that ingredient, I believe there is still both a legal and an

>ethical problem in prescribing that medicine.

>

>Bob

>

>, " Kelly Welch " <kdwelch25@h...> wrote:

>> I am not sure if every doctor can list every ingredient in every

>drug they

>> prescribe. I think they mostly know the category, its functions,

>how it

>> works etc but can they list the ingredients? I do not know the

>answer.

>>

>> My Yunnan Pai Yao reads:

>> Notoginseng root 40%

>> Herb of Clarke 17%

>> Chinese Yam 13

>> Wild Yam 10

>> Geranium 7.2

>> Lesser galangal root 6.0

>> Ox gall 5

>>

>> thats 98.2% total....the rest is chong qi.

>>

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[Guest guest]

Bill,

 

Thanks for the identification on Herb of Clarke. Looking in the Zhong

Yao Da Ci Dian, I was able to find this herb in Vol. 2 on page 2300.

The Chinese name translates literally as " scatter or disperse the

blood herb. " It is described as bitter and cold. Similar to other

regional folk medicinals or newly adopted medicinals, no channel

tropisms are given. Functions and indications are: stops bleeding,

scatters or disperses the blood, disperses swelling. Treats external

injury bleeding and detriment and damage due to fall and strike. Under

method of use, it says it is used externally by mashing and applying

or powdering.

 

Your identification of Wild Yam did not come through on my machine.

 

BTW, what happened in Providence this weekend? Did the symposium go on

as planned? Sorry we couldn't be there. Our flight was cancelled due

to war.

 

Bob

 

, William Egloff <bill@c...> wrote:

> Hi Bob,

>

> I'm hearing that " Herb of Clarke " is a local yunnan province

herb :

> character translation is San yu cao (boea clarkeanna Hemsl. San Xue

Cao

> is the primary name in the book.

>

> Wild Yam is

>

> Doing the math analysis on Yunnan Paiyao (manufactured by

Yunnan

> Paiyao Group Co. Ltd, Kunming, China :

>

> Notoginseng root 1.6 gm 40.73%

> Herb of Clarke .68 gm 17.31%

> Chinese Yam .52 gm 13.24%

> Wild Yam .4 gm 10.18%

> Geranium Plant .288 gm 7.33%

> Lesser Galangal root .24 gm 6.11%

> Ox Gall .2 gm 5.09%

>

> Total 3.928 gm 99.99%

>

>

>

> >Does anyone know what " Herb of Clarke " is? Is the Chinese also

listed?

> >I can't find Herb of clarke in any of my English language Chinese

> >medicinal books. I'm alos not sure what " Wild Yam " is. Even if the

> >name of the ingredient is known, if one can't find out any

information

> >on that ingredient, I believe there is still both a legal and an

> >ethical problem in prescribing that medicine.

> >

> >Bob

> >

> >, " Kelly Welch " <kdwelch25@h...>

wrote:

> >> I am not sure if every doctor can list every ingredient in every

> >drug they

> >> prescribe. I think they mostly know the category, its functions,

> >how it

> >> works etc but can they list the ingredients? I do not know the

> >answer.

> >>

> >> My Yunnan Pai Yao reads:

> >> Notoginseng root 40%

> >> Herb of Clarke 17%

> >> Chinese Yam 13

> >> Wild Yam 10

> >> Geranium 7.2

> >> Lesser galangal root 6.0

> >> Ox gall 5

> >>

> >> thats 98.2% total....the rest is chong qi.

> >>

> >> _______________

> >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

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> >

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> >specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of

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> >

> >

> >

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Does anyone know about the use of yunnan pai yao for someone with blood

stasis concurrent with emotional injury due to betrayal or abuse?

Lonnie Jarrett suggests this prescription in his writings on betrayal of

intimacy. I find yunnan pai yao somewhat harsh and cold, maybe not for

everyone. But what about its use on this level? Useful or not?

Thanks. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts and experience with this.

 

Frances

[Guest guest]

Hi,Frances,

 

I didn't use yuannan Pai Yao before.I check the

effectiveness of yunnan Pai yao in chinese from

internet.It cure boxing or athletice causes bruise

and contusion.

 

>Does anyone know about the use of yunnan pai yao for

someone with blood stasis concurrent with emotional

injury due to betrayal or abuse?

 

For body bruise(punch,boxing) ,you may use it.

Mainland create a new form medicine paste recentely.

According to internet information.

 

If it is emotional,you might try Shao-Yao-San

or Gia-wei-shao-yao-san. and add some herbs to help

stasis,such as Dan-sen...

 

>I find yunnan pai yao somewhat harsh and cold,

 

Bin-Pan may causes cold feeling,but,In TCM,It is not

cold.others help circulation of blood to help blood

eliminate bruise or some type of simple inflamation

caused stasis.

 

The main effect of yunnan Pai yao is for boxing or

athletice injury(bruise) on surface of skin or

interanl orgain(for example,punch to abdomen.)

 

 

Jean

 

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, Frances Gander <fgander@c...> wrote:

> Does anyone know about the use of yunnan pai yao for someone with

blood

> stasis concurrent with emotional injury due to betrayal or abuse?

 

Hi Frances,

 

I have used Yunnan Bai Yao with some frequency to treat various

emotional disturbances. It is quite effective in this regard if the

appropiriate treatment strategy is employed; I tend to use it along

with some other herbs that support the blood througout the process

of " dredging " it with the Yunnan Bai Yao.

 

 

> Lonnie Jarrett suggests this prescription in his writings on

betrayal of

> intimacy. I find yunnan pai yao somewhat harsh and cold, maybe not

for

 

Harsh, perhaps but I don't find the formula particularly cold. One

caveat as to it's use: Make sure the patient is ready to confront the

actual feelings they have relating to the emotional trauma. When you

use this formula you are working on the level of the luo vessels, and

the activation of the blood in the luo vessel will then allow the

emotional blueprint of the shen stored in the blood to access the

heart itself. So this can be a very intense process, with the patient

having vivid dreams, and recalling experiences that were previously

held in the shen stored in the blood.

 

 

> everyone. But what about its use on this level? Useful or not?

> Thanks. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts and experience with

this.

>

> Frances

 

Hope this helps,

 

Steven

[Guest guest]

Hi Steven,

Your explanation of how you use yunnan pai yao in these situations is

very interesting. It certainly makes sense that the patient be ready

to participate in this process(not only has a dusky tongue). And

the other herbs to support blood during the 'dredging' process sounds good

as well as accessing the shen through the luo. Thank

you very much.

Frances

taohongjing wrote:

, Frances Gander

<fgander@c...> wrote:

> Does anyone know about the use of yunnan pai yao for someone

with

blood

> stasis concurrent with emotional injury due to betrayal or abuse?

Hi Frances,

I have used Yunnan Bai Yao with some frequency to treat various

emotional disturbances. It is quite effective in this regard if

the

appropiriate treatment strategy is employed; I tend to use it along

with some other herbs that support the blood througout the process

of "dredging" it with the Yunnan Bai Yao.

 

> Lonnie Jarrett suggests this prescription in his writings on

betrayal of

> intimacy. I find yunnan pai yao somewhat harsh and cold,

maybe not

for

Harsh, perhaps but I don't find the formula particularly cold. One

caveat as to it's use: Make sure the patient is ready to confront

the

actual feelings they have relating to the emotional trauma. When

you

use this formula you are working on the level of the luo vessels,

and

the activation of the blood in the luo vessel will then allow the

emotional blueprint of the shen stored in the blood to access the

heart itself. So this can be a very intense process, with the patient

having vivid dreams, and recalling experiences that were previously

held in the shen stored in the blood.

 

> everyone. But what about its use on this level? Useful

or not?

> Thanks. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts and experience

with

this.

>

> Frances

Hope this helps,

Steven

 

 

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics

specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional

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