Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 So has any herbal formula been shown to be as effective as ciprofloxacin? Jim Ramholz About managing Anthrax, excerpted from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol5no4/cieslak.htm): Inhalational anthrax begins after exposure to the necessary inoculum, with the uptake of spores by pulmonary macrophages. These macrophages carry the spores to tracheobronchial or mediastinal lymph nodes. Here, B. anthracis finds a favorable milieu for growth and is induced to vegetate. The organism begins to produce an antiphagocytic capsule and at least three proteins, which appear to play a major role in virulence. These proteins are known as edema factor (EF), lethal factor (LF), and protective antigen (PA). Following the A-B model of toxicity (13), PA serves as a necessary carrier molecule for EF and LF and permits penetration into cells. Edema toxin results from the combination of EF + PA, lethal toxin results from the combination of LF + PA. These toxins result in necrosis of the lymphatic tissue, which in turn causes the release of large numbers of B. anthracis. The organisms gain access to the circulation, and an overwhelming fatal septicemia rapidly ensues. At autopsy, widespread hemorrhage and necrosis involving multiple organs is seen. While endemic strains of B. anthracis are typically sensitive to various antibiotics, including penicillin G, antibiotic-resistant strains do (on rare occasion) occur naturally (16) and can be readily isolated in laboratories. For this reason, as well as the convenience of twice-daily dosing, many experts consider ciprofloxacin (400 mg intravenously (i.v.) q 12 h) the drug of choice for treating victims of terrorism or warfare. Doxycycline (100 mg i.v. q 12 h) is an acceptable alternative, although rare doxycycline-resistant strains of B. anthracis are known. Conversely, however, the much lower cost of tetracyclines compared to quinolones may factor into therapeutic decisions, especially where large numbers of patients are involved. These recommendations are based solely on in vitro data and data from animal models (17); no human clinical experience with these regimens exists. In cases of endemic anthrax, or where organisms are known to be susceptible, penicillin G (2 million units i.v. q 2 h or 4 million units i.v. q 4 h) is recommended. Postexposure prophylaxis against anthrax may be achieved with oral ciprofloxacin (500 mg orally q 12 h) or doxycycline (100 mg orally q 12 h), and all persons exposed to a bioterrorist incident involving anthrax should be administered one of these regimens at the earliest possible opportunity. In cases of threatened or suspected release of anthrax, chemoprophylaxis can be delayed 24 to 48 hours, until the threat is verified. Chemoprophylaxis can be discontinued if the threat is found to be false. Levofloxacin and ofloxacin would be acceptable alternatives to ciprofloxacin. In addition to receiving chemoprophylaxis, exposed persons should be immunized. On the basis of animal data (wherein an appreciable number of unvaccinated primates died when antibiotics were withdrawn after 30 days of therapy) (18), chemoprophylaxis is best continued until the exposed persons has received at least three doses of vaccine (thus, for a minimum of 4 weeks). If vaccine is unavailable, some recommend that chemoprophylaxis be continued for 8 weeks (19). The available vaccine was licensed (for preexposure prophylaxis) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 1970 and is prepared from a formalin-treated culture supernatent of an avirulent B. anthracis strain. It is given in a preexposure regimen at 0, 2, and 4 weeks, and at 6, 12, and 18 months. Persons at continuing risk for exposure should receive yearly boosters. Exposed persons should receive at least three doses (at 0, 2, and 4 weeks), assuming no further exposure is likely, before discontinuing chemoprohylaxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 been shown >>>That is the key word Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 , <alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > been shown > >>>That is the key word > Alon from the 100th General Meeting of the American Society for Microbiology: Do Plants Use a Traditional Strategy in Combating Microbes? (Session 136/A., Paper A-123) Spencer Benson University of Maryland College Park 301-405-5478 sb77 In Traditional (TCM) the herbalist often combines various agents (herbs) in a holistic approach to restore or maintain homeostasis. By combining various herbs the herbalist seeks to accentuate and enhance the activity of the principle active ingredient, suppress undesirable side effects, and treat accompanying symptoms. This TCM strategy is different then traditional western medicine approaches which historically have been to identify single " magic bullet " drugs that are highly specific, used for specific diseases/symptoms, and have minimal interactions with systems of components other that the desired target. We show that Arnebia euchroma an herbal plant of the Boraginaceae family uses a TCM-like combinatorial strategy in its production of antimicrobial compounds. Root extracts from Arnebia euchroma and related Boraginaceae species have traditionally been used as topical wound heal agents both in Asia and Europe. The roots of Arnebia euchroma contain a mixture of six structurally related shikonin type compounds that can be extracted from the roots using organic solvents. We have termed the extract rubricine due to its deep red color. Rubricine is a broad-spectrum antimicrobial agent that is active against fungi and bacteria. Each of the six compounds individually possesses antimicrobial activity, although not all are equally effective as single agents. When individual components are used in pair-wise combinations the antibacterial activity is accentuated and enhanced beyond that expected from a simple additive effect. The parent compound, shikonin, functions as both an antimicrobial agent and as an accentuator for the antibacterial activities of each the other five compounds. This finding suggest that in the natural environment the plant produces a combination of compounds rather then increased amounts of a single compound because of the added advantage of synergy among the compounds. One possible reason for this is that roots need to maintain homeostasis with the surrounding microbial flora and the combination of compounds is more beneficial that the actions of individual compounds. This natural combinatorial strategy is TCM like. It suggests that an alternative paradigm for drug discovery is to look at combinations of related compounds for synergistic effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2001 Report Share Posted September 22, 2001 on 9/21/01 11:30 PM, James Ramholz at jramholz wrote: > So has any herbal formula been shown to be as effective as > ciprofloxacin? > > Jim Ramholz > I have no idea, but chuan xin lain and huang lian are the most logical places to start an inquiry. Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2001 Report Share Posted September 22, 2001 there many TCM herbs that have anti-biotic properties, especially in vitro. That is not the same thing as being able to combat specific infection in vivo. Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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