Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Hi, Every one, Since Alon doesn¡¦t like TCM herb advice from Chair man Jiang.(I was thinking, maybe mainland ¡¥s experienced experts could provide more good herbal formula for prevent or cure anthrax, which bother people in the US very much now. We are in the same world, don¡¦t we? While you curing people, there shouldn¡¦t have any discrimination in racial or political. Right?) Therefore, maybe small Taiwan can provide a small help. (Ha! Don¡¦t be so serious while we discuss TCM, Alon.) I would like to present this herbal formula to be a prototype for the prevention of anthrax. This formula is design for prevention only, not curing herbal formula. Drink TCM herbal tea is much better then take any strong anti-biotic to prevent anthrax, at least it is harmless, and it can strengthen the defense function of lung system and digestion system to against the intruder. This formula is free to use. Every specialist in the group is allowed to change some of the herbs. And it depends on the environment, weather, and people¡¦s situation to do such adjust. This is it below. Xi-yang-shen 6g(State of Wisconsin product ) Mai4-men2-dong 9g Shi2-hu 9g Huang2-Qi2 12g Biai2-zhu2 12g Fang2-feng 6g Yin2-hua 6g Lian2-Qiao4 6g Sang-ye4 6g Ju2-hua 3g Bo4-he2(mint, should put into the herb tea inthe last few minutes) Jie2-geng3 6g Gan-cao3 3g add some bin-tang( crystal sugar) the herb tea will become very good to taste. If people got flu( feng-han ), it had better not use this herb tea. ===== -------------------------------- < ¨C¤Ñ³£ ©_¼¯ > www..tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Jeansu, I appreciate your attempt to keep things light yet informative with respect to the anthrax posts, and personally I think the threat of this becoming a real bioterrorist threat is fairly remote (as do most bioterrorist experts). However jibing Alon for his genuine concerns about TCM's usage in an acute, likely to be fatal disease situation seem uncalled for. An anthrax situation is not one in which to experiment with warm disease theories, or wondering if the antibiotic properties of herbs are enough to ward off death. There simply is no time. Nor are there convincing studies or even adequate anecdotes from China which would cause me to place TCM above western medicine in this situation. In the bizzaro scenario within which a patient of mine came to me and said, " I have anthrax and don't want to take antibiotics for it, " I would refuse treatment. Now of course, if they've been treated, or are being treated, sure we can do supportive treatment. Hell, give some thought to acidophilus after your course of Cipro , but take the medicine. Alon's comments are usually short, acerbic, and well reasoned. They certainly are in this case. Mark Reese TCM herb formula for anthrax > Hi, Every one, > > Since Alon doesn¡¦t like TCM herb advice from Chair > man Jiang.(I was thinking, maybe mainland ¡¥s > experienced experts could provide more good herbal > formula for prevent or cure anthrax, which bother > people in the US very much now. We are in the same > world, don¡¦t we? While you curing people, there > shouldn¡¦t have any discrimination in racial or > political. Right?) > > Therefore, maybe small Taiwan can provide a small > help. > (Ha! Don¡¦t be so serious while we discuss TCM, Alon.) > I would like to present this herbal formula to be a > prototype > for the prevention of anthrax. This formula is design > for > prevention only, not curing herbal formula. > > Drink TCM herbal tea is much better then take any > strong anti-biotic to prevent anthrax, at least it is > harmless, and it can strengthen the defense function > of lung system and digestion system to against the > intruder. > > This formula is free to use. Every specialist in the > group is allowed to change some of the herbs. And it > depends on the environment, weather, and people¡¦s > situation to do such adjust. > This is it below. > > Xi-yang-shen 6g(State of Wisconsin product ) > Mai4-men2-dong 9g Shi2-hu 9g > Huang2-Qi2 12g Biai2-zhu2 12g Fang2-feng 6g > Yin2-hua 6g Lian2-Qiao4 6g Sang-ye4 6g > Ju2-hua 3g Bo4-he2(mint, should put into the herb tea > inthe last few minutes) Jie2-geng3 6g Gan-cao3 3g > add some bin-tang( crystal sugar) the herb tea will > become very good > to taste. > > If people got flu( feng-han ), it had better not use > this herb tea. > > > > ===== > > > -------------------------------- > < ¨C¤Ñ³£ ©_¼¯ > www..tw > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Cipro >>>>>I wish I had stock in the company. Many cheep antibiotics work just as well Alon - Mark Reese Friday, October 19, 2001 5:05 PM Re: TCM herb formula for anthrax Jeansu,I appreciate your attempt to keep things light yet informative with respectto the anthrax posts, and personally I think the threat of this becoming areal bioterrorist threat is fairly remote (as do most bioterrorist experts).However jibing Alon for his genuine concerns about TCM's usage in an acute,likely to be fatal disease situation seem uncalled for.An anthrax situation is not one in which to experiment with warm diseasetheories, or wondering if the antibiotic properties of herbs are enough toward off death. There simply is no time. Nor are there convincing studiesor even adequate anecdotes from China which would cause me to place TCMabove western medicine in this situation. In the bizzaro scenario withinwhich a patient of mine came to me and said, "I have anthrax and don't wantto take antibiotics for it," I would refuse treatment. Now of course, ifthey've been treated, or are being treated, sure we can do supportivetreatment. Hell, give some thought to acidophilus after your course ofCipro , but take the medicine.Alon's comments are usually short, acerbic, and well reasoned. Theycertainly are in this case.Mark Reese TCM herb formula for anthrax> Hi, Every one,>> Since Alon doesn¡¦t like TCM herb advice from Chair> man Jiang.(I was thinking, maybe mainland ¡¥s> experienced experts could provide more good herbal> formula for prevent or cure anthrax, which bother> people in the US very much now. We are in the same> world, don¡¦t we? While you curing people, there> shouldn¡¦t have any discrimination in racial or> political. Right?)>> Therefore, maybe small Taiwan can provide a small> help.> (Ha! Don¡¦t be so serious while we discuss TCM, Alon.)> I would like to present this herbal formula to be a> prototype> for the prevention of anthrax. This formula is design> for> prevention only, not curing herbal formula.>> Drink TCM herbal tea is much better then take any> strong anti-biotic to prevent anthrax, at least it is> harmless, and it can strengthen the defense function> of lung system and digestion system to against the> intruder.>> This formula is free to use. Every specialist in the> group is allowed to change some of the herbs. And it> depends on the environment, weather, and people¡¦s> situation to do such adjust.> This is it below.>> Xi-yang-shen 6g(State of Wisconsin product )> Mai4-men2-dong 9g Shi2-hu 9g> Huang2-Qi2 12g Biai2-zhu2 12g Fang2-feng 6g> Yin2-hua 6g Lian2-Qiao4 6g Sang-ye4 6g> Ju2-hua 3g Bo4-he2(mint, should put into the herb tea> inthe last few minutes) Jie2-geng3 6g Gan-cao3 3g> add some bin-tang( crystal sugar) the herb tea will> become very good> to taste.>> If people got flu( feng-han ), it had better not use> this herb tea.>>>> =====>>> --------------------------------> < ¨C¤Ñ³£ ©_¼¯ > www..tw>>> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcarepractitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializingin Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,including board approved online continuing education.>> http://www..org>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Hi,Mark, Thank you for your reply. Of course I know that anthrax is another terrior attack.But,I think there are only 8 cases has been proved.And the terrior make 100 million people take antibiotics for prevent to infected. How many probability each single person will attacked by?Most people take antibiotics for soothe the fear. Those herbals get same fuction as those antibiotics. And,How do you know it has no any function since you didn't testing it?Ha! Beside,it is humless to be drinked like herb tea. Sometimes,it might killing some anthrax and reduce the acute situation. WM count on experimental very much.And ,TCM count on the philosophy and herb experience.There are mtoo many TCM can't get any result from experimentalbecause we are above the formality. Try it like herb tea,not drug.And,it is humless. Don't worry about alon,I never care about his reaction.We are discuss the truth of TCM on this group,not personal attack,right? TCM is macro,we act in a different way then WM. There were lots winbin during history in china, anthrax must be once happened before.Nothing can be rare during passing 1000s years. God bless you guys,my friend. jean ===== -------------------------------- < ¨C¤Ñ³£ ©_¼¯ > www..tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Jeansu: > Hi,Mark, > Of course I know that anthrax is another terrior > attack.But,I think there are only 8 cases has been > proved.And the terrior make 100 million people take > antibiotics for prevent to infected. 100 Million people are NOT taking antibiotics for prevention. Although a lot of people are purchasing and hording the antibiotic, none are reported to be taking it as a multivitamin preventative. > > How many probability each single person will attacked > by? Very low, as I stated it is an unlikely threat. > TCM can't get any result from experimentalbecause we > are above the formality. This is unfortunate, since this is one of the few ways to get meaninful information on a technique or intervention. > > Try it like herb tea,not drug.And,it is humless. Jeansu, we all know that herbs are not at all necessarily harmless. In fact, some can be dangerous when misprescribed. Certainly you must know that. > > Don't worry about alon,I never care about his > reaction.We are discuss the truth of TCM on this > group,not personal attack,right? I hope this is the truth. > > God bless you guys,my friend. Certainly, god bless anyone who does come down with anthrax and forgoes antibiotics. > > jean > > > Mark Reese > > ===== > > > -------------------------------- > < ¨C¤Ñ³£ ©_¼¯ > www..tw > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Jean: While this is nice general formula to treat infections in the upper jiao, is there any clinical evidence that this formula can prevent or treat anthrax or its symptoms? Jim Ramholz , Jeansu <jeansu009> wrote: > Drink TCM herbal tea is much better then take any > strong anti-biotic to prevent anthrax, at least it is > harmless, and it can strengthen the defense function > of lung system and digestion system to against the > intruder. > > This formula is free to use. Every specialist in the > group is allowed to change some of the herbs. And it > depends on the environment, weather, and people¡¦s > situation to do such adjust. > This is it below. > > Xi-yang-shen 6g(State of Wisconsin product ) > Mai4-men2-dong 9g Shi2-hu 9g > Huang2-Qi2 12g Biai2-zhu2 12g Fang2-feng 6g > Yin2-hua 6g Lian2-Qiao4 6g Sang-ye4 6g > Ju2-hua 3g Bo4-he2(mint, should put into the herb tea > inthe last few minutes) Jie2-geng3 6g Gan-cao3 3g > add some bin-tang( crystal sugar) the herb tea will > become very good > to taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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