Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Does anybody know where one can purchase Chinese Red Rice Yeast? Is this commonly found in Chinatown pharmacies? I've never seen it. Thanks, on behalf of a few people who've been asking. -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 I think Bio Essence (formerly Min Tong) has it. Frances Al Stone wrote: > Does anybody know where one can purchase Chinese Red Rice Yeast? Is this > commonly found in Chinatown pharmacies? I've never seen it. > > Thanks, on behalf of a few people who've been asking. > > -- > Al Stone L.Ac. > <AlStone > http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 >I've found red rice yeast sold in Chinese grocery stores. It is still on >the rice and looks like bright red rice. >Karen Vaughan >CreationsGarden Karen et al, Not all red rice yeast has the same physiological effect. A few years ago I spent a fair amount of time and money comparatively evaluating RRY from various sources who used a variety of manufacturing techniques. RRY has been traditionally used to improve digestion and circulation as well as for a food and beverage coloring agent. More recently it has been sold for its ability to lower cholesterol. Researchers have found that RRY contains chemical components called statins. One of them, lovostatin, has been developed into a drug by Merck and I believe Pharmacia. The statins have shown to inhibit an enzyme in the liver called HMG CoA reductase. The enzyme is known to stimulate the production of cholesterol in the liver, therefore inhibition of the enzyme reduces the production of cholesterol. There are laboratory assays that can be done to quantify the level of HMG CoA reductase inhibition and therefore calculate the potency of the cholesterol lowering effect. I have done this with many RRY samples and have found that many have no inhibition at all. Others have fairly significant inhibition. There are also HPLC methods that can be used to measure the statin content. This approach allows one to evaluate the peaks on a graph that represent an array of the various naturally occurring statins. This offers the advantage of being able to detect unusually high levels of a single statin component, which typically indicates that the sample was spiked with a synthetically manufactured statin compound. Unfortunately this practice of adulterating RRY with synthetic components is not that unusual in China. My experience is that other, less direct approaches to lowering cholesterol, which concurrently balance other aspects of liver function, are more effective in rectifying the pathogenesis of heart disease. Stephen *************************************** Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Statins have a very good record at lowering heart disease and preventing attacks. Like I said before thorne has red yeast rise that is standardized to 1.4% total monoclonins or statins. Alon - Stephen Morrissey Monday, October 22, 2001 4:53 PM RE: Re: Chinese Red Rice Yeast >I've found red rice yeast sold in Chinese grocery stores. It is still on>the rice and looks like bright red rice.>Karen Vaughan>CreationsGardenKaren et al,Not all red rice yeast has the same physiological effect. A few years ago Ispent a fair amount of time and money comparatively evaluating RRY fromvarious sources who used a variety of manufacturing techniques. RRY hasbeen traditionally used to improve digestion and circulation as well as fora food and beverage coloring agent. More recently it has been sold for itsability to lower cholesterol. Researchers have found that RRY containschemical components called statins. One of them, lovostatin, has beendeveloped into a drug by Merck and I believe Pharmacia. The statins haveshown to inhibit an enzyme in the liver called HMG CoA reductase. Theenzyme is known to stimulate the production of cholesterol in the liver,therefore inhibition of the enzyme reduces the production of cholesterol.There are laboratory assays that can be done to quantify the level of HMGCoA reductase inhibition and therefore calculate the potency of thecholesterol lowering effect. I have done this with many RRY samples andhave found that many have no inhibition at all. Others have fairlysignificant inhibition. There are also HPLC methods that can be used tomeasure the statin content. This approach allows one to evaluate the peakson a graph that represent an array of the various naturally occurringstatins. This offers the advantage of being able to detect unusually highlevels of a single statin component, which typically indicates that thesample was spiked with a synthetically manufactured statin compound.Unfortunately this practice of adulterating RRY with synthetic components isnot that unusual in China. My experience is that other, less directapproaches to lowering cholesterol, which concurrently balance other aspectsof liver function, are more effective in rectifying the pathogenesis ofheart disease.Stephen***************************************Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcarepractitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializingin Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 >>>Statins have a very good record at lowering heart disease and preventing attacks. Like I said before thorne has red yeast rise that is standardized to 1.4% total monoclonins or statins. Alon<<< I was unable to find " Thorne Research " on-line. Who are they and where are they? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 -----Original Message----- Statins have a very good record at lowering heart disease and preventing attacks. Like I said before thorne has red yeast rise that is standardized to 1.4% total monoclonins or statins. Alon Alon, The UCLA studies that have been done on RRY used roughly two grams a day of high statin content material that was fermented under highly controlled conditions. I have also tested the activity of several food grade products, one of which was also quite potent. It was grown in the traditional way of mixing the yeast with rice, wrapping it in a burlap sack and burying in the ground to ferment. Either way, I have done human research studies that produced equivalent or better results using less than 500mg of RRY per day as one of nine ingredients in a formula. Yes RRY has value but I would recommend it as an ingredient in a more comprehensive approach to treatment. Stephen *************************************** Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 they are a very well known nutrition company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Yes RRY has value but I would recommend it as an ingredient in a more comprehensive approach to treatment. >>>Probably good advice in general. The activity of statins in preventing heart attacks are more than just reducing cholesterol and at this point not completely understood Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Hi, Alon ,Stephen and all, Thanks for Stephen and Alon provide about the RRY¡¦s scientific evidence. And I would like to provide another in TCM herbal book (Wang-Yang, Ching1-Dynasty): Red Rice Yeast Sweet, warm, and colored red. Enter the nutrition (Yin-fen) of blood and can be destroy (or break) blood. Dry stomach, help digestibility, vivid blood and balance the blood. Cured diarrhea and diarrhea with blood, injury by fallen or boxing, post delivery Lochia incomplete. How is your opinion, Alon? Maybe TCM can¡¦t provide scientific evidence directly, but ,it provide almost same result, even, more evidences need to be proved. And we eat it in daily food,why should we have to take it like drug?Daily prevention is the most excellent way away from diseases!How about yours ? Jean ===== -------------------------------- < ¨C¤Ñ³£ ©_¼¯ > www..tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 And we eat it in daily food,why should we have to takeit like drug?Daily prevention is the most excellentway away from diseases!How about yours >>>Yes if you can get enough statins Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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