Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 I was reading the post by Will, which said that he adminsters xiao chai hu tang to patients who had wind/cold or wind/heat, and develop a wiry pulse and loss of appetite. Being new at this, I looked the formula up in Bensky, and noticed it had 24 grams of chai hu, which could possibley injure the yin, as Bensky states. What amount do most of you use if making a raw herb formula? Thank you. Gabrielle I find many of the postings very helpful to me. Thank you all so much for making your knowledge available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 , " gabriellemathieu " < gabriellemathieu> wrote: > I was reading the post by Will, which said that he adminsters xiao > chai hu tang to patients who had wind/cold or wind/heat, and develop > a wiry pulse and loss of appetite. Being new at this, I looked the > formula up in Bensky, and noticed it had 24 grams of chai hu, which > could possibley injure the yin, as Bensky states. What amount do most > of you use if making a raw herb formula? Thank you. Gabrielle I find 9-12 grams adequate for this purpose. does anybody ever use chai hu gui zhi tang, which is for combined taiyang/shaoyang pattern? It contains bai shao which will protect the yin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 I use chai hu gui zhi tang quite frequently. A combined tai yang/shao yang pattern is quite common, especially in the colder season(s). And most modern practitioners use 9-12 gm. of chai hu. Zhang Xi-chun said that using a large dose of chai hu will cause sweating, which may be ok for strong patients, but in weaker patients it may weaken the defense qi, instead of enhance it. The strong yang upbearing qualities of chai hu will strengthen the exterior and outthrust heat from the shao yang, but if the dose is too strong, it will cause sweating and decrease the effects. This is also why the literature warns us not to use chai hu prescriptions too early, to avoid this happening and trapping evil qi in the interior. Adding gui zhi and bai shao seems to be some insurance from this happening. On Sunday, December 16, 2001, at 05:34 PM, 1 wrote: > , " gabriellemathieu " < > gabriellemathieu> wrote: > > I was reading the post by Will, which said that he adminsters xiao > > chai hu tang to patients who had wind/cold or wind/heat, and develop > > a wiry pulse and loss of appetite. Being new at this, I looked the > > formula up in Bensky, and noticed it had 24 grams of chai hu, which > > could possibley injure the yin, as Bensky states. What amount do most > > of you use if making a raw herb formula? Thank you. Gabrielle > > I find 9-12 grams adequate for this purpose. does anybody ever use > chai hu gui zhi tang, which is for combined taiyang/shaoyang pattern? > It contains bai shao which will protect the yin. > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 And most modern practitioners use 9-12 gm. of chai hu. Zhang Xi-chun said that using a large dose of chai hu will cause sweating, which may be ok for strong patients, but in weaker patients it may weaken the defense qi, instead of enhance it. >>>Its intresting that in kampo they use it for weak conformations. Alon - Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:54 AM Re: Re: Shao Yang syndrome I use chai hu gui zhi tang quite frequently. A combined tai yang/shao yang pattern is quite common, especially in the colder season(s). And most modern practitioners use 9-12 gm. of chai hu. Zhang Xi-chun said that using a large dose of chai hu will cause sweating, which may be ok for strong patients, but in weaker patients it may weaken the defense qi, instead of enhance it. The strong yang upbearing qualities of chai hu will strengthen the exterior and outthrust heat from the shao yang, but if the dose is too strong, it will cause sweating and decrease the effects.This is also why the literature warns us not to use chai hu prescriptions too early, to avoid this happening and trapping evil qi in the interior. Adding gui zhi and bai shao seems to be some insurance from this happening.On Sunday, December 16, 2001, at 05:34 PM, 1 wrote: , "gabriellemathieu" <gabriellemathieu> wrote:> I was reading the post by Will, which said that he adminsters xiao> chai hu tang to patients who had wind/cold or wind/heat, and develop> a wiry pulse and loss of appetite. Being new at this, I looked the> formula up in Bensky, and noticed it had 24 grams of chai hu, which> could possibley injure the yin, as Bensky states. What amount do most> of you use if making a raw herb formula? Thank you. GabrielleI find 9-12 grams adequate for this purpose. does anybody ever usechai hu gui zhi tang, which is for combined taiyang/shaoyang pattern? It contains bai shao which will protect the yin.Todd Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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