Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Excuse me if I talk about a clinical application. A student asked me how I would treat autoimmune vasculitis. I said it often presented with blood stasis as a major factor. If I could confirm this with s/s, then this method would dominate my initial approach. I said I would modify the formula for other factors, of course, especially vacuity. The student asked how long I would mover blood. I said chinese clinical research often indicated very long course of tx for such illnesses, six months or more. She seemed shocked that one would move blood for this long. I have not found it to be a problem as long one addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions. -- , FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 No, again, it always depends on the pattern. Blood stasis in such conditions can be very stubborn, and take a long period of time to resolve. In autoimmune conditions this is usually the case, but there is also usually underlying vacuity and/or a complex, mixed pattern. However, one can treat more gently, as with herbal medicinals such as dan shen or chuan xiong, or more powerfully, with such medicinals as zhe chong or shui zhi, depending on the case. While I am not aware of the Chinese literature or articles on this particular disease, one shouldn't discount the use of 'unusual' treatment methods such as resolving phlegm, nourish yin, or supplementing qi with modifications of such prescriptions as er chen tang, sheng mai tang, or bu zhong yi qi tang. On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 09:32 PM, > Excuse me if I talk about a clinical application. A student asked > me how I would treat autoimmune vasculitis. I said it often presented > with blood stasis as a major factor. If I could confirm this with s/s, > then this method would dominate my initial approach. I said I would > modify the formula for other factors, of course, especially vacuity. > The student asked how long I would mover blood. I said chinese > clinical research often indicated very long course of tx for such > illnesses, six months or more. She seemed shocked that one would move > blood for this long. I have not found it to be a problem as long one > addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions. > > > -- > Chinese Herbs > > FAX: > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 I have not found it to be a problem as long one addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions. >>I do often as well. Unless I see signs of problems and/or S/S change Alon - cha Monday, December 17, 2001 11:32 PM blood moving Excuse me if I talk about a clinical application. A student asked me how I would treat autoimmune vasculitis. I said it often presented with blood stasis as a major factor. If I could confirm this with s/s, then this method would dominate my initial approach. I said I would modify the formula for other factors, of course, especially vacuity. The student asked how long I would mover blood. I said chinese clinical research often indicated very long course of tx for such illnesses, six months or more. She seemed shocked that one would move blood for this long. I have not found it to be a problem as long one addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions. -- Chinese Herbs FAX: Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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