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Excuse me if I talk about a clinical application. :) A student

asked me how I would treat autoimmune vasculitis. I said it often

presented with blood stasis as a major factor. If I could confirm

this with s/s, then this method would dominate my initial approach.

I said I would modify the formula for other factors, of course, especially

vacuity. The student asked how long I would mover blood. I

said chinese clinical research often indicated very long course of tx for

such illnesses, six months or more. She seemed shocked that one would

move blood for this long. I have not found it to be a problem as

long one addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions.

 

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No, again, it always depends on the pattern. Blood stasis in such

conditions can be very stubborn, and take a long period of time to

resolve. In autoimmune conditions this is usually the case, but there is

also usually underlying vacuity and/or a complex, mixed pattern.

However, one can treat more gently, as with herbal medicinals such as

dan shen or chuan xiong, or more powerfully, with such medicinals as zhe

chong or shui zhi, depending on the case.

 

While I am not aware of the Chinese literature or articles on this

particular disease, one shouldn't discount the use of 'unusual'

treatment methods such as resolving phlegm, nourish yin, or

supplementing qi with modifications of such prescriptions as er chen

tang, sheng mai tang, or bu zhong yi qi tang.

 

 

On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 09:32 PM,

 

> Excuse me if I talk about a clinical application.  :)  A student asked

> me how I would treat autoimmune vasculitis.  I said it often presented

> with blood stasis as a major factor.  If I could confirm this with s/s,

> then this method would dominate my initial approach.  I said I would

> modify the formula for other factors, of course, especially vacuity. 

> The student asked how long I would mover blood.  I said chinese

> clinical research often indicated very long course of tx for such

> illnesses, six months or more.  She seemed shocked that one would move

> blood for this long.  I have not found it to be a problem as long one

> addresses vacuity at the same time.  any opinions.

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> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

> healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate

> academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety

> of professional services, including board approved online continuing

> education.

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I have not found it to be a problem as long one addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions. >>I do often as well. Unless I see signs of problems and/or S/S change

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Monday, December 17, 2001 11:32 PM

blood moving

Excuse me if I talk about a clinical application. :) A student asked me how I would treat autoimmune vasculitis. I said it often presented with blood stasis as a major factor. If I could confirm this with s/s, then this method would dominate my initial approach. I said I would modify the formula for other factors, of course, especially vacuity. The student asked how long I would mover blood. I said chinese clinical research often indicated very long course of tx for such illnesses, six months or more. She seemed shocked that one would move blood for this long. I have not found it to be a problem as long one addresses vacuity at the same time. any opinions. -- Chinese Herbs FAX: Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

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