Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 If a problem or treatment method is outside my scope of practice, the patient is referred out; most already see Western MDs. So, if you see a thyroid problem and your patient is on thyroid medication, it's easy enough to question them about the symptoms and tell them to ask their doctor to adjust the dose. Most of the time, you try to "explain" WM in terms of CM. If you're interested in more details about how CM and WM perspectives mix in pulse diagnosis (for example about reading thyroid function in the pulse), you can read my article, "Organs and Their Associated Pulses," in the Files section of AdvancedPulseDiagnosis/. Jim Ramholz - fbernall Friday, January 04, 2002 11:01 AM Re: Digest Number 844/Innovation of CM Jim, I find it fascinating that so much information about various WM systems are garnered through your Korean system of pulse diagnosis. As one who's always careful not to step outside my scope of practice, or to misrepresent my training by excessive reference to WM organs, I wonder if you keep your findings about a patient's malfunctioning thyroid, or any other system for that matter, to yourself? Or do you share your assessment of these systems with your patient and if so, are you threading on someone else's turf?Thanks,Fernando, "jramholz" <jramholz> wrote:> The next innovation of CM is the integration of WM. For example, in > our system of Korean pulse diagnosis, we look at the activity of the > pulses using terms from WM. Using smaller sectors and combining > details from different positions, we can examine organs (thyroid, > adrenals, brain, pancreas, etc.) and their functions as distinct > objects and patterns. We're always talking about the function of the > endocrine system and the nervous system, etc.; not often in temrs of > vacuity and repletion, etc. But we always use WM in the context of > pulse diagnosis. Katpchuk is in error. > > I suspect what will happened at the cultural level will largely be > determined by political and intellectual forces. But theoretically > and clinically, it's already happening.> > CM holds the key to organization---especially in 5-Phases.> > > Jim Ramholz> > > > > , > wrote:> > The next innovation of Western Medicine will be the integration of> > . There's the great section of The Web where > Kaptchuk posits that Western Medicine bding innovative can embrace > CM whereas CM will not be CM if it intergrates Western.> > I finally heard an old Chinese Doctor (now practicing in > Switzerland) that in the West he gets to practice the real > Traditional Medicine because he doesn't have access to his Western > tools.> > It was quite an admission. > > > > > > > , "" <@o...>> > > wrote: I am suggesting that my approach is nothing more than what> > > has occurred in China for the last 2000 years.> > > > > > I suspect the next innovation of CM will be the integration of> > > Western ideas.> > > > > > Jim RamholzlChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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