Some Notes on Cancer

[Guest guest]

A tumor is a confined mass of tissue that develops without

inflammation from normal tissue, an abnormal swelling within the

body, or the enlargement of tissues by normal or pathological

materials or cells that form a mass—greater than 1.0 cm in diameter—

but has an abnormal structure and rate of growth. A tumor, as a

separate mass, does not alter organic function; although it may

create extra pressure.

 

The essential difference between tumors and cancer is that a tumor

does not resemble the tissue it occupies, whereas cancer does. Cyst

or tumors are independent masses whereas cancer is formed in the

organ itself. A skin tumor, for instance, will not closely resemble

the surrounding skin tissue; but cancerous tissue on the skin does.

A tumor grows in the local area; it attacks the skin, then the

muscle, etc.

 

Cancer, on the other hand, tends to invade healthy tissue, develop

connections to the blood and lymph supply, spread to new sites, and

follows its system—it could be vascular system or circulatory system—

and will alter the energy of an organ or tissue as evidenced by the

pulses. Certain cancers are more perverse then others. This degree

of perversity can be analyzed from two different perspectives. The

first would be by looking at it as a perverse wind qi movement;

another is the degree of similarity between the cancer and the organ

it resides in. If a cancer easily moves between tissues and organs,

even before it takes over one type of tissue or organ completely, it

is all the more perverse because of its mobility. If we compare the

two situations, one where an organ has 50% cancerous tissue and the

other where 50% of an organ is not functioning, having cancerous

tissue is " healthier " than the complete loss of function.

 

Pulse Diagnosis

In general, when dealing with cancer cases, you have to strengthen

the controlling or grandmother element. The grandmother is the

element that controls the cancerous organ; if not suppressed, the

cancer it will grow much stronger. If the cancer grows too strong,

it will move to the controlling element. Cancer usually follows the

sedation cycle or moves against the tonification cycle; less common,

is the movement against the sedation cycle. But it does not

ordinarily follow the tonification cycle.

 

By dividing any pulse position into three levels, we can calculate

the emotional, organic, and physical relationships of the cancer

(Five Phases within Five Phases within Five Phases). A cancer pulse

is usually double layered [two movements in the rising portion of

the sine wave], but it can also be Concealed, Knotted,

Substitutional, Choking, or Intermittent. When it is double layered,

usually the very top it will be Knotted [the intermittency is

created by a 3-dimensional spinning which has the physical sensation

of a knot]. Anytime a pulse is mixing with another one it will

create a knotted sensation at the fingertips. When the cancer

completely takes over, the whole pulse will become doubled and will

look like two distinct layers. If the pulse is just knotting, then

it means that something is blocking and growing, but if it actively

doubling, then it is creating a malignant activity.

 

Sometimes called a Binding pulse, it is an indication of excessive

yin. Any two waves weaving into a rope shape or tangling with each

other always indicate cancerous energy. If this mode is seen in the

mid level of a pulse, the organ has cancer; if in the superficial

level, cancer is starting to form in the organ; if in the deep

level, cancer is moving on (metastasis).

 

Pulse diagnosis, because it is a real-time system of analysis, only

indicates if the cancer is presently active. If it is in remission,

there will not be any cancer activity; although when the cancer is

inactive, it can still be a source of stress to the involved organ.

If the Four Gates are needled, a cancer in remission will be more

apparent in the pulses. But this is not a recommended technique. If

the body is not ready to effectively resolve the cancer, this

treatment might actually reactivate it.

 

It should also be noted that when cancer is inactive or in

remission, the cancer pulse shapes—knotting and intermediate—do not

manifest. The practitioner should compare the other pulse positions

and shapes to determine energetic balance and movement.

 

If three organs are adulterated by this pulse, then it almost

certainly indicates death. Yang organs with cancer are easier to

treat than yin organs. If any of auxiliary pulses are copying the

major cancer movement, suspect them, since cancer is a type of cell

that is has very similar genetic information that the host organ

possesses.

 

In general we want the cancer to go into remission first and then

work on the original cause of the problem. Once the cancer is in

remission and the perverse activity has stopped, the window of

opportunity is extended to safely work on the original cause. We

stop the cancer growth first in order to stop the leakage of energy

and stabilize the body before going further with treatment. Remember

that if there is no energy, then there is nothing really for you to

work with in treatment. If for example, a cancer has been in situ

for a prolonged period of time but it is not active or not growing

may much more difficult to eliminate than an active cancer.

 

The only way to eliminate cancer is to allow the body to " be aware "

of the presence of the cancer. Prior to this the cancer was inactive

or just sitting there without exchanging energy with the rest of the

body. To eliminate this mass, You cannot just go in if there is no

response or activity from the thing that you are working. You have

to tap into another source of energy in order to get rid of this one.

 

So in cases when they have a little lump that has been sitting there

for a long period of time one of the techniques is to put the needle

right inside and sedate it with the bird pecking technique. But the

term sedation in this case is an oversimplification; actually what

happens is that the bird pecking technique stimulates energy

circulation and brings vital yang energy to the core of the mass. If

the cancer growth is exceptionally slow in an older people, it may

be less traumatic to defer surgery, if the cancer will cause fewer

physical problems.

 

Acupuncture Treatment Strategy

 

The body creates blockages in the lymph, nerves, tissues and

meridians to prevent the movement or spread of the cancer. If a

blockage is slowing the cancer movement do not unblock it. If cancer

patients show blockages on shu points make sure that the blockage is

not beneficial or necessary. Indiscriminant needling of shu points,

ashi points, or trigger points can allow the cancer to spread if it

is already susceptible to movement, or become activated if in

remission. Because the cancer is the guest energy, vital qi tends to

be tonified more quickly and directly; the pathogen gets sedated

more quickly than the vital qi.

 

Still, tonification skills must be used cautiously to prevent

reinforcing the movement of the cancer itself. During each treatment

session, tonify 7 units and sedate 3 units.

 

Case Study

 

According to Jiang Jing we can create the cancer ourselves through a

number of emotional stresses as well as physical ones—often needed

in combination to create cancer. Jiang Jing had a case of

inflammatory breast cancer he worked on for three years. Even though

the cancer itself went into remission after the first three months,

it took three years to work on all the emotional and organic causes.

 

This work was done to prevent the emotional and energetic patterns

from recreating the cancer. If all three energetic levels of the

pulse—emotional, organic, and adapted—are completely balanced, it

will be very difficult for the condition to reoccur. So if the

patient can resolve the emotional disturbances causing the original

stress, they should be free from recurrence.

 

Pregnancy

 

When you examine the fetus through the pulses, in the first few

months it may appear very similar to cancer movement. As the fetus

grows in its own confined space, it draws upon the resources of the

host's body—as does cancer. The most important difference is that

the fetus grows in the uterus and does not intrude into the host.

 

Pregnancy can look like cancer, especially in the initial stage,

because it does not yet display much heavy, yin qualities in the

pulse; and there is an immense amount of yang energy activity. If it

is not known whether a woman has a tumor, cancers, or a baby,

examine the pulse for an independent Five Phase balance. It should

look like it belongs to the uterus and is copying its movement

because the uterus is collecting everything; but all the vital

energies are all balanced.

 

Chemotherapy

 

When patients receive chemo or radiation therapy, look for an

energetic movement indicating heat in the pulse texture or

overlaying the pulse wave. In these cases, sedate the heat in the

kidney by tonifying the water element and the earth element of water

and earth. This will provide stronger mucus and body fluid

secretion. This is one of the few situations where you intentionally

tonify mucus secretion. If not done, chemo and radiation therapy can

burn out mucus membranes.

 

Fibroid Tumors

 

When patients have fibroid tumors, pay attention to the spleen and

liver pulses—along with the specific pulse that corresponds to the

location of the fibroids. Basically we search for a blocking pulse

or a pulse that is knotting and, at the same time, going into the

tissue level. If for example they have fibroid tumors in the breast

you will have to check the lung pulse, along with the spleen and the

liver, in order to verify where it is Knotting. If the fibroids

happen to be in the uterus, check the Sanjiao, kidney, spleen, and

liver pulses.

[Guest guest]

This is interesting, because it is opposite to what I've read, learned

and observed. I am pointing this out not to deny the potential of Jim's

idea, but to show that there may be several opinions on cancer treatment

because of its unpredictability and variety.

 

More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve blood

stasis in a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that cancer

cells surround themselves with static blood to protect themselves from

the effects of the body's immune system (an independent article in

Scientific American pointed out the same thing). This is the opposite

of the idea that the body uses stasis to protect itself from the cancer.

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 10:30 AM, jramholz wrote:

 

> The body creates blockages in the lymph, nerves, tissues and

> meridians to prevent the movement or spread of the cancer. If a

> blockage is slowing the cancer movement do not unblock it. If cancer

> patients show blockages on shu points make sure that the blockage is

> not beneficial or necessary. Indiscriminant needling of shu points,

> ashi points, or trigger points can allow the cancer to spread if it

> is already susceptible to movement, or become activated if in

> remission. Because the cancer is the guest energy, vital qi tends to

> be tonified more quickly and directly; the pathogen gets sedated

> more quickly than the vital qi.

[Guest guest]

wrote:

 

> More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve blood stasis in

a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that cancer cells surround

themselves with static blood to protect themselves from the effects of the

body's immune system (an independent article in Scientific American pointed out

the same thing). This is the opposite of the idea that the body uses stasis to

protect itself from the cancer.

 

I know of some MD's who use heparin (anti-coagulation factor of some

sort) to treat cancer. They say that there is more heparin in the blood

of the cancer patient than others. They think that this is the body's

attempt to deal with something unique to cancers.

 

I also did some research, looking for heparinesque herbs and found one

in particular, but unfortunately, I can't find a resource to get some in

extract or even raw form. Anybody know where I can get some E Wei (Asafoetida)?

 

 

--

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

[Guest guest]

Al,

 

If Mayway or Nuherbs don't have E Wei, you can always buy

Asafoetida at your local culinary arts shop that sells spices and

flavorings. It's a great spice in bean dishes. You can probably find

it in the spice aisle at Von's.

 

As for some of the other parts of this discussion, it apears to me

some respondents are mixing apples (CM) and oranges (WM).

 

Bob

 

, Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote:

>

>

> wrote:

>

> > More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve

blood stasis in a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that

cancer cells surround themselves with static blood to protect

themselves from the effects of the body's immune system (an

independent article in Scientific American pointed out the same

thing). This is the opposite of the idea that the body uses stasis to

protect itself from the cancer.

>

> I know of some MD's who use heparin (anti-coagulation factor of some

> sort) to treat cancer. They say that there is more heparin in the

blood

> of the cancer patient than others. They think that this is the

body's

> attempt to deal with something unique to cancers.

>

> I also did some research, looking for heparinesque herbs and found

one

> in particular, but unfortunately, I can't find a resource to get

some in

> extract or even raw form. Anybody know where I can get some E Wei

(Asafoetida)?

>

>

> --

> Al Stone L.Ac.

> <AlStone@B...>

> http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

>

> Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

[Guest guest]

Good point to raise, but I don't see our statements are opposites.

Your's is a different point altogether. Both processes---the

original cancer hiding from immune system and cancer cells trying to

metastasize [physically through the blood and energetically along 5-

Phase cycles]---are going on simultaneously. The necessity

to " uncamouflage " a tumor at the localized cancer site to facilitate

immune response is different from the physical and energetic blocks

that may isolate and prevent the spread to another organ. For

example, these blocks are often at acupuncture points or physical

sites where organs connect energetically or physically. So massage

is sometimes counterindicated because it may facilitate the spread

of cells through the lymph.

 

Jim Ramholz

 

 

 

 

 

, " " <zrosenbe@s...>

wrote:

> This is interesting, because it is opposite to what I've read,

learned

> and observed. I am pointing this out not to deny the potential of

Jim's

> idea, but to show that there may be several opinions on cancer

treatment

> because of its unpredictability and variety.

>

> More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve

blood

> stasis in a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that

cancer

> cells surround themselves with static blood to protect themselves

from

> the effects of the body's immune system (an independent article in

> Scientific American pointed out the same thing). This is the

opposite

> of the idea that the body uses stasis to protect itself from the

cancer.

>

>

>

>

> On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 10:30 AM, jramholz wrote:

>

> > The body creates blockages in the lymph, nerves, tissues and

> > meridians to prevent the movement or spread of the cancer. If a

> > blockage is slowing the cancer movement do not unblock it. If

cancer

> > patients show blockages on shu points make sure that the

blockage is

> > not beneficial or necessary. Indiscriminant needling of shu

points,

> > ashi points, or trigger points can allow the cancer to spread if

it

> > is already susceptible to movement, or become activated if in

> > remission. Because the cancer is the guest energy, vital qi

tends to

> > be tonified more quickly and directly; the pathogen gets sedated

> > more quickly than the vital qi.

[Guest guest]

Z'ev:

 

You bring up an important point---but I think we're talking about

two different processes. While it's important for herbal blood

movers to be used to uncamouflage a tumor at its physical site to

facilitate the immune system's action against it, my point is about

the energetic and physical blocks to prevent the spread from that

site to other organs or tissues.

 

For example, in breast cancer, massage may be counterindicated if

there is a doubling or knotting movement anywhere in the lymph (the

3rd of the pulse 5-depths) outside the right distal position (where

original breast cancer pulse movement is found). A doubling or

knotting somewhere else indicates that the cancer is attempting to

metastasize---the energetic movement can happen long before a new

physical site is discovered. Blocked points that connect different

organs should not be needled (or needled to block the flow between

the organs).

 

 

Jim Ramholz

 

 

, " " <zrosenbe@s...>

wrote:

> This is interesting, because it is opposite to what I've read,

learned

> and observed. I am pointing this out not to deny the potential of

Jim's

> idea, but to show that there may be several opinions on cancer

treatment

> because of its unpredictability and variety.

>

> More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve

blood

> stasis in a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that

cancer

> cells surround themselves with static blood to protect themselves

from

> the effects of the body's immune system (an independent article in

> Scientific American pointed out the same thing). This is the

opposite

> of the idea that the body uses stasis to protect itself from the

cancer.

>

[Guest guest]

You are right there, Bob.

 

I rushed off the e-mail before realizing I mixed two things together.

That's what happens when you do too many things at once.

 

It should read as follows:

 

A recent Chinese study indicated that using medicinals that dispel blood

stasis had good results in benefitting cancer patients ( I don't

remember the details. . . will have to look them up)

 

The material on COAGULATED (not static) blood surrounding cancer cells

is from the Scientific American study. It was not connected with the

Chinese CM study. But interesting nonetheless.

 

 

 

On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 12:30 PM, pemachophel2001 wrote:

 

 

> As for some of the other parts of this discussion, it apears to me

> some respondents are mixing apples (CM) and oranges (WM).

>

> Bob

>

> , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> >

> > > More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve

> blood stasis in a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that

> cancer cells surround themselves with static blood to protect

> themselves from the effects of the body's immune system (an

> independent article in Scientific American pointed out the same

> thing). This is the opposite of the idea that the body uses stasis to

> protect itself from the cancer.

> >

[Guest guest]

Mayway carries raw/whole e wei. $16/ pound

 

-Jason

 

>

> pemachophel2001 [pemachophel2001]

> Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:31 PM

>

> Re: Some Notes on Cancer

>

> Al,

>

> If Mayway or Nuherbs don't have E Wei, you can always buy

> Asafoetida at your local culinary arts shop that sells spices and

> flavorings. It's a great spice in bean dishes. You can probably find

> it in the spice aisle at Von's.

>

> As for some of the other parts of this discussion, it apears to me

> some respondents are mixing apples (CM) and oranges (WM).

>

> Bob

>

> , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> >

> > > More specifically, one study I read used medicinals to resolve

> blood stasis in a cancer study, with good results. It pointed out that

> cancer cells surround themselves with static blood to protect

> themselves from the effects of the body's immune system (an

> independent article in Scientific American pointed out the same

> thing). This is the opposite of the idea that the body uses stasis to

> protect itself from the cancer.

> >

> > I know of some MD's who use heparin (anti-coagulation factor of some

> > sort) to treat cancer. They say that there is more heparin in the

> blood

> > of the cancer patient than others. They think that this is the

> body's

> > attempt to deal with something unique to cancers.

> >

> > I also did some research, looking for heparinesque herbs and found

> one

> > in particular, but unfortunately, I can't find a resource to get

> some in

> > extract or even raw form. Anybody know where I can get some E Wei

> (Asafoetida)?

> >

> >

> > --

> > Al Stone L.Ac.

> > <AlStone@B...>

> > http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

> >

> > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

>

>

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