Chinese training

[Guest guest]

I know a lot of Chinese trained doctors and worked with a few in my to China.

Yes, some of the doctors do not have superior training than ours but when they

do it is vastly better. This is mainly due to their hospital system and the

volume of patients. Some doctors I have met

" settled " for TCM but most of those I know who have emmigrated here are the best

and brightest of Chinese students. So these generalizations work for some but

not for others.

[Guest guest]

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> I know a lot of Chinese trained doctors and worked with a few

in my to China. Yes, some of the doctors do not have superior

training than ours but when they do it is vastly better. This is

mainly due to their hospital system and the volume of patients.

 

While the main difference seems to be the clinical training, I

also suspect that chinese doctors do not have any of their

curriculum devoted to massage or qi gong or tai ji. these allied

arts take up quite a few hours at PCOM that are probably used in

the PRC to teach western med and chinese classics. This, of

course, raises the issue of specialization. Is it really in our best

interests to try and create qi gong healers, massage techs,

acupuncturists and herbalists in ANY program of any length?

Aren't all these specialties that deserve extensive training in their

own right? So the chinese doc who tracks in internal med

probably has quite a few more hours in the actual practice of

herbology than his american counterpart.

 

[Guest guest]

 

 

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> While the main difference seems to be the clinical training,

 

If you want to list the main differences, you

have to include the fact of literacy and access

to Chinese language sources as well as cultural

familiarity that makes obvious to native Chinese

aspects of the study that non-Chinese sometimes

never notice.

 

One of the reasons why there is such a pronounced

difference in clinical training is that the

whole environment of Chinese medicine in

China is so vastly more conducive to the

study and practice. I've heard estimates

that suggest that 15% or so of the Chinese

population that is served by the public

health system relies primarily on traditional

Chinese medical care. If we accept the notion

that roughly 15% of the Chinese population

lives in areas that are relatively well served

by pubich health, we're talking about a demographic

of comprising some 200 million people or more.

And if 15% of these are primarily using TCM,

that means there are 30 million patients

involved...if my math is right.

 

That's a lot of people making the decision

to use traditional Chinese medicine. And

such decision making is intimately linked

to knowing what it's all about, at least

at the level of a lay understanding.

 

That's the main difference, from what I've

been able to observe.

 

I

> also suspect that chinese doctors do not have any of their

> curriculum devoted to massage or qi gong or tai ji.

 

This doesn't hold for the students at CDUTCM.

Tai4 ji2, qi4 gong1, and massage are all

requirements in many of the departments

and concentrations.

 

these allied

> arts take up quite a few hours at PCOM that are probably used in

> the PRC to teach western med and chinese classics.

 

Chinese students are also required to study

English typically, in recognition of the importance

of English language literacy and access to literature

and communication and exchange of information with

English users.

 

This, of

> course, raises the issue of specialization. Is it really in our

best

> interests to try and create qi gong healers, massage techs,

> acupuncturists and herbalists in ANY program of any length?

 

This raises an interesting question. How is it

that we chose to focus on making acupuncturists

when acupuncture constitutes but one of these

specializations that make up the whole field?

 

 

> Aren't all these specialties that deserve extensive training in

their

> own right?

 

They also all deserve and require a sound foundation

in basic medical theory.

 

So the chinese doc who tracks in internal med

> probably has quite a few more hours in the actual practice of

> herbology than his american counterpart.

 

This, I would have said up until reading the

recent posts, goes without saying. But I guess

things that go without saying often never get

said.

 

Ken