Guest guest Posted March 22, 2002 Report Share Posted March 22, 2002 Laughing and answering myself... I was just informed that Chinese Medicinal are not regulated in California! Anyone can prescribe them. It would seem like as group we would work together to get them regulated! I know much of my education at PCOM was spent learning Internal Medicine/Herbal Medicinal. It would be such a pity if the AMA or some other group took them over and excluded us from prescribing them. My apologies on the last email, Z'ev. My computers battery for keeping time and dates has never worked... and my computer just gets worse and worse! So being pro-active, I went and purchased a new one... because ekkkkkkks I could not stand it totally crashing on me. In Health, Teresa - " Teresa Hall " <Teresa.bodywork4u Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:36 PM Chinese Medicinals > Hi all *S* > > Does anyone know if MD's are allowed to prescribe Chinese Herbal Medicinals > in the state of California? Is it in their scope of practice? > > Thanks, > Teresa > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Teresa, > Laughing and answering myself... I was just informed that Chinese Medicinal > are not regulated in California! Anyone can prescribe them. I'm not sure what you're saying. If you mean prescribe as in recommend their use for the treatment of a disease, I believe that anybody in California doing this without a license to practice medicine would be seen in the eyes of the State of Califronia as a criminal. I'm not up on current enforcement policies, but I know that the AMA is watchful for people practicing medicine without a license and cooperates with law enforcement agencies to police the field they see themselves in control of. It would seem > like as group we would work together to get them regulated! Under whose authority would you like to see them regulated? I know much of > my education at PCOM was spent learning Internal Medicine/Herbal Medicinal. > It would be such a pity if the AMA or some other group took them over and > excluded us from prescribing them. Doesn't regulation force such issues? In the process of regulation, there must be some presentation of language, definitions of terms, and so on. If something is a medicine, why should doctors not be concerned about it? If doctors are concerned about it, why should not the AMA take it into their purview? I think regulation is a very complex matter and we should definitely talk about it, as it's a reality we live with. But I think we have an enormous amount of work to do to adequately prepare for dealing effectively with such initiatives, wherever they originate. > > My apologies on the last email, Z'ev. My computers battery for keeping time > and dates has never worked... and my computer just gets worse and worse! So > being pro-active, I went and purchased a new one... because ekkkkkkks I > could not stand it totally crashing on me. Good luck with your new computer. Seems to me like they all misbehave. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 , " Teresa Hall " < Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > Laughing and answering myself... I was just informed that Chinese Medicinal > are not regulated in California! Anyone can prescribe them. Actually that is not true. Anyone can sell them and provide information on their use. But only a licensed healthcare provider can recommend them for the treatment of a specific complaint. Acupuncturists used to be able to recommend herbs only to promote health. We can now recommend them to restore health. those sale clerks in the health food stores may technically be practicing medicine without a license if they recommend an item to treat an illness. the wording in the CA law is confusing, but this is an interpretation offered by Barbara Mitchell, a lawyer, L.Ac. and chair of the NCCAOM. You can confirm her opinion by a close reading of the CA medical practice act which defines what is medicine and who can practice it. Herbology is definitely medicine. Some (even most) states do not allow MD's to use untested medicines. Oregon only allowed this about 5 years ago. doctors have lost their licenses in the south for prescribing herbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 , " dragon90405 " <yulong@m...> wrote: > > I think regulation is a very complex > matter and we should definitely talk > about it, as it's a reality we live with. > But I think we have an enormous amount of > work to do to adequately prepare for dealing > effectively with such initiatives, wherever > they originate. > I think Steven Morrisey has pointed out that we might have a very hard time proving that we are the only (or even the best) ones to have the right to prescribe herbs exclusively. An argument can be made that those with the most scientific and pharmacological training are best suited for this (i.e. MD's). We currently basically have the right to prescribe herbs and I doubt that will be overturned. but if we try and prevent MD's from doing this, we might lose everything. German MD's prescribe herbs based upon their pharmacology and so there is precedent for this approach. ND's legally do this in about 12 states also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 Barbara Mitchell, i thought she was @ AOMA Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 , Warren Cargal < wcargal9@b...> wrote: > > > Barbara Mitchell, i thought she was @ AOMA Warren Well, she used to be at NCCAOM. what is AOMA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2002 Report Share Posted March 30, 2002 No apologies necessary. . . Z'ev On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 08:18 PM, Teresa Hall wrote: > > My apologies on the last email, Z'ev. My computers battery for keeping > time > and dates has never worked... and my computer just gets worse and > worse! So > being pro-active, I went and purchased a new one... because ekkkkkkks I > could not stand it totally crashing on me. > > In Health, > Teresa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 Hi all *S* Does anyone know if MD's are allowed to prescribe Chinese Herbal Medicinals in the state of California? Is it in their scope of practice? Thanks, Teresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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