You are being LIED to by Mr Rose

[Guest guest]

Mr. Rose

I do not know what your agenda is but I will assume that since you

are an administrator of a college you probablt know more about the

sunject than most. In my post I presented as much as I HONESTLY know

of the subject. If you would be up front of your intentions when you

respond with the post below I would not take any issue.

 

There are many alums of NESA that put in their time as have recent

and soon to be grads. You may not agree with our point of view. But

try to explain how a Master of Acupuncture degree compares to a

Master Of Oreintal Medicine espescially whe OM includes Chinese

medicinals specifically in the training?

 

Aris Skaliotis

 

 

 

 

, " dragon90405 " <yulong@m...> wrote:

> The post about the degree controversy

> reminded me that I've been wanting to

> share a web resource with the members

> of this group. Check out <http://www.disinfo.com>

> if you don't already know it. And

> there is a fascinating book called

> You Are Being Lied To put out by

> the same folks who report about

> disinformation abroad in the land.

>

> The mechanisms whereby individuals

> become trapped in consentual realities,

> such as being denied the use of certain

> letters of the alphabet in identifying

> oneself professionally, do not begin with

> the machinations of school administrations.

>

> I think as a profession we need to be

> vigilant concerning the stream of

> data that we process, both in terms

> of input and output.

>

> Ken

[Guest guest]

Mr. Skaliotis,

 

> I do not know what your agenda is but I will assume that since you

> are an administrator of a college you probablt know more about the

> sunject than most.

 

You can read my agenda in past posts here

as well as our published work. I think

the two most concise and complete statements

can be found in the book Who Can Ride the Dragon?

and in the even more concise statement in the

journal I edit, Clinical Acupuncture and Oriental

Medicine.

 

In responding to your post, I wasn't actually

seeking to forward my agenda. I was just noticing

that the pattern of deception that you perhaps

very correctly complain about is not limited

to the administrators of a single institution.

 

In my post I presented as much as I HONESTLY know

> of the subject. If you would be up front of your intentions when

you

> respond with the post below I would not take any issue.

 

I was as up front as I know how to be.

I was not impugning your intentions

or questioning your honesty. Sorry if

I implied either.

>

> There are many alums of NESA that put in their time as have recent

> and soon to be grads. You may not agree with our point of view. But

> try to explain how a Master of Acupuncture degree compares to a

> Master Of Oreintal Medicine espescially whe OM includes Chinese

> medicinals specifically in the training?

 

If I understand the situation correctly, and I

have to say that your report about it was the

first I'd heard of it, then I see it as yet

another example in which for lack of clear

definitions, people suffer in this field.

 

I am quite sympathetic to your plight.

 

And what I meant to say was that it seems

to me, admittedly far removed from the

scene, to be part of a larger pattern of

deception. That's what made me think of

the work of the people at disinfo.

 

As it happens, I'll be in Boston at

the end of this month. If you'd like

to meet and give me a chance to understand

the situation there more fully, I'd

be glad to see if we can find a

mutually agreeable time and place.

 

Contact me off the list and we'll

make the arrangements.

 

And good luck!

 

Ken

 

>

> Aris Skaliotis

>

>

>

>

> , " dragon90405 " <yulong@m...> wrote:

> > The post about the degree controversy

> > reminded me that I've been wanting to

> > share a web resource with the members

> > of this group. Check out <http://www.disinfo.com>

> > if you don't already know it. And

> > there is a fascinating book called

> > You Are Being Lied To put out by

> > the same folks who report about

> > disinformation abroad in the land.

> >

> > The mechanisms whereby individuals

> > become trapped in consentual realities,

> > such as being denied the use of certain

> > letters of the alphabet in identifying

> > oneself professionally, do not begin with

> > the machinations of school administrations.

> >

> > I think as a profession we need to be

> > vigilant concerning the stream of

> > data that we process, both in terms

> > of input and output.

> >

> > Ken