Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Has anyone treated the side effects of prostate surgery? What kind of success have people had? What patterns are commonly seen? What patterns seem to respond well to therapy? Are some symptoms treated better than others (impotence, incontinence)? The symptoms are all caused by nerve trauma, which may include complete severing of the nerves. If the nerves are completely severed I don't think anything can be done. But otherwise there may be varying degrees of success. Since this condition always involves trauma, is the treatment of blood stasis always a strategy? Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Blue Poppy Research Report #112 is about the CM treatment of the side effects of prostate surgery. If I remember correctly, it mostly deals with incontinence which, surprisingly, the treatment was effective in remediating. I remember this because I was so surprised by it. Bob , <@i...> wrote: > Has anyone treated the side effects of prostate surgery? What kind of > success have people had? What patterns are commonly seen? What patterns > seem to respond well to therapy? Are some symptoms treated better than > others (impotence, incontinence)? The symptoms are all caused by nerve > trauma, which may include complete severing of the nerves. If the nerves > are completely severed I don't think anything can be done. But otherwise > there may be varying degrees of success. Since this condition always > involves trauma, is the treatment of blood stasis always a strategy? > > > Chinese Herbs > > voice: > fax: > > " Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds " -- > Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 , " pemachophel2001 " < pemachophel2001> wrote: > > > Blue Poppy Research Report #112 Is that the one about the use of bu zhong yi qi tang? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Had to go and check this myself. You're right. The formula in RR #112 is a modification of Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang called Gu Piao Tang (Secure the Urine Decoction). Interestingly, there is an accompanying set of acupuncture protocols as well. However, I don't know of anyone Stateside who has used these protocols. Have you? If so, what happened? Bob , " 1 " <@i...> wrote: > , " pemachophel2001 " < > pemachophel2001> wrote: > > > > > > Blue Poppy Research Report #112 > > Is that the one about the use of bu zhong yi qi tang? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 , " pemachophel2001 " < pemachophel2001> wrote: However, I don't know of anyone > Stateside who has used these protocols. me neither. has anyone had any experience with this? I would have thought that moving static blood would play a role in a situation caused by trauma. But that strategy is not used in this study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Blue Poppy Research Report #112 is about the CM treatment of the side effects of prostate surgery. If I remember correctly, it mostly deals with incontinence which, surprisingly, the treatment was effective in remediating. I remember this because I was so surprised by it.>>>I guess you still believe everything you read Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Todd: Do you know if your's or any other school tries to verify or duplicate the Chinese results? I know there isn't any program at CSTCM, where I teach. It might be interesting to choose a problem and check the Chinese protocols. Jim Ramholz , " 1 " <@i...> wrote: > , " pemachophel2001 " < > pemachophel2001> wrote: > However, I don't know of anyone > > Stateside who has used these protocols. > > me neither. has anyone had any experience with this? I would > have thought that moving static blood would play a role in a > situation caused by trauma. But that strategy is not used in this > study. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 Alon: Do you remember offhand what the success rate was in China for these types of cases? Jim Ramholz , " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus@w...> >>>>I guess you still believe everything you read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 I have not seen any post prostate cases in China. Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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