Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 Could someone explain for the group why taiyang disease has simultaneous fever/chills and shaoyang alternating. both of these stages exhibit fever due struggle between righteous and evil. why the difference. I will tackle this later if no one responds, but someone wanted an explanation now and I have to run. Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 From my notes.. Shang Han Lun, clause 12, Gui Zhi Tang syndrome, in taiyang dz, the yang is floating and the yin is weak. The floating yang (wei qi fighting the cold attack) makes the fever... I learned the chills are due to the cold pathogen and the fever is caused by the wei qi fighting the invasion. This can account for the simultaneous fever and chills. In shaoyang disorders, the pathogen already went deeper than the surface, stuck in the mo yuan (membrane source), or half interior / half exterior, and the zheng qi is too weak to expel the cold xie qi. I think of it more of a seesawing back and forth between the heat of the yang of the zheng qi and the cold of the pathogen. Geoff , <@i...> wrote: > Could someone explain for the group why taiyang disease has simultaneous > fever/chills and shaoyang alternating. both of these stages exhibit fever > due struggle between righteous and evil. why the difference. I will > tackle this later if no one responds, but someone wanted an explanation > now and I have to run. > > > Chinese Herbs > > voice: > fax: > > " Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds " -- > Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 Geoff thanks. that is also my understanding. all I would add is that in the taiyang stage, the severity of the chills reflects the strength of the pathogen and the ability to generate a fever reflects the strength of the yang and wei qi. when a pathogen proceeds from the taiyang to the shaoyang stage, we could say the pathogen has prevailed over the righteous. thus, the chills got the upper hand on the fever. now the body is weakened and it marshals its resources and attacks back with fever, but the evil is too strong and the defenders must retreat. the fever fades and the chills of the pathogen begin to regain the upper hand. this continues back and forth until the patient is properly treated, " spontaneously " recovers (perhaps from rest and proper diet) or the pathogen progresses into the yangming stage. Of course, all this depends upon whether you place shaoyang before or after yangming. , " yingsuke2002 " <list@a...> wrote: > From my notes.. Shang Han Lun, clause 12, Gui Zhi Tang syndrome, in > taiyang dz, the yang is floating and the yin is weak. The floating > yang (wei qi fighting the cold attack) makes the fever... I learned > the chills are due to the cold pathogen and the fever is caused by > the wei qi fighting the invasion. This can account for the > simultaneous fever and chills. In shaoyang disorders, the pathogen > already went deeper than the surface, stuck in the mo yuan (membrane > source), or half interior / half exterior, and the zheng qi is too > weak to expel the cold xie qi. I think of it more of a seesawing > back and forth between the heat of the yang of the zheng qi and the > cold of the pathogen. > > Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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