Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 I saw in Acupuncture Today that Bastyr and OCOM had their doctoral programs accepted. Does anyone know when they will be starting up the programs? Also, how much herbal training is there? Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 , " Nashua Natural Medicine " < sean@n...> wrote: > I saw in Acupuncture Today that Bastyr and OCOM had their doctoral programs > accepted. Does anyone know when they will be starting up the programs? > Also, how much herbal training is there? call OCOM at 503-253-3443. I suspect strong emphasis on herbs and think it starts this fall. OCOM only admits students in the fall, so if they don't start in 02, they have to wait a year. Personally, I would be skeptical of the quality of ANY programs for the first few years. There are going to be a lot of bugs to work out as things are implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 I have heard that Doctoral degrees earned in other states will not be recognized in California, has anyone else heard this? Teresa - " 1 " < Friday, June 28, 2002 8:57 AM Re: doctoral programs > , " Nashua Natural Medicine " < > sean@n...> wrote: > > I saw in Acupuncture Today that Bastyr and OCOM had their > doctoral programs > > accepted. Does anyone know when they will be starting up the > programs? > > Also, how much herbal training is there? > > call OCOM at 503-253-3443. I suspect strong emphasis on > herbs and think it starts this fall. OCOM only admits students in > the fall, so if they don't start in 02, they have to wait a year. > > Personally, I would be skeptical of the quality of ANY programs > for the first few years. There are going to be a lot of bugs to work > out as things are implemented. > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 , " Teresa Hall " < Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > I have heard that Doctoral degrees earned in other states will not be > recognized in California, has anyone else heard this? what type of recognition? Even if you got the docotoral in CA, your scope of practice will remain the same and you will still be an L.Ac. You could call yourself doctor, but you can do that now if you have an old OMD. Are new mexico OMD's allowed to use their degree title in CA? seems it would be the same thing. I don't think CA has the authority to not allow the use a degree title from an accredited US school. It woul be like saying if you got your Ph.d. at harvard, it was not valid here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 Dear In California, New Mexico DOMs (I think is what they are) are NOT allowed to use the title doctor because it is not a doctorate degree but a licensing title. Even MDs from other countries must state " M.D. (Argentina) " , etc. But someone who earns a doctorate degree from an ACAOM-accredited doctorate program in another state should be able to use the title " doctor " in California -- Will Morris, what do you think? Julie > > what type of recognition? Even if you got the docotoral in CA, > your scope of practice will remain the same and you will still be > an L.Ac. You could call yourself doctor, but you can do that now if > you have an old OMD. Are new mexico OMD's allowed to use > their degree title in CA? seems it would be the same thing. I > don't think CA has the authority to not allow the use a degree title > from an accredited US school. It woul be like saying if you got > your Ph.d. at harvard, it was not valid here. > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 In a message dated 6/29/02 5:04:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, info writes: In California, New Mexico DOMs (I think is what they are) are NOT allowed to use the title doctor because it is not a doctorate degree but a licensing title. Even MDs from other countries must state "M.D. (Argentina)", etc. But someone who earns a doctorate degree from an ACAOM-accredited doctorate program in another state should be able to use the title "doctor" in California -- Will Morris, what do you think? Hi Julie -- This is true. Imagine people with accredited doctorates coming to California -- unable to use the title -- law suits would abound. I have one of the old OMDs from a California approved school. When I practiced in Massachusetts, the Commonwealth Medical Board's Acupuncture Unit did not permit anyone to use the California OMD. However, they did permit Ted Kaptchuck to use his OMD from Macaw. They felt the OMD gave practitioners from out of state an unfair market advantage. The state of California Department of Consumer Affairs regulates the Acupuncture Board; they have an interest in protecting California business. A licensate doctorate from out of state will not be ruled upon favorably by these agencies. They will protect the interest of California schools to provide doctorates even if they are only state approved such as the one at AUCM. That said, they still have an obligation to recognize legitimate doctorates from other states. There may eventually be question about sates approved as opposed to accredited program from other states. However, there are strong lobbying powers in this state for programs such as the mail order naturopathic degree from Louisiana will probably sustain the rights of people with such degrees. Will Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 To all, I wonder, do the scientist in European is worthless than the scientist in American even thought they have more knowledge than American scientist? Do the human's body from CA. is different from the human's body from another state?. So,eventualy,people always think they are better human right than the others , but unfortunate, they make the human's body become prisoner right in their country, but nobody recognize it. People really screw up their mind and do not know what they are doing, are they? God bless American Nhung Ta -- Nhung Ta nhung.ta business phone 727-548-4237 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 One of the quirks of the law, is that those who took the old 'OMD' programs in California, which had many fewer hours than the present masters degree in OM, can use that title. However, those with the DOM license in New Mexico (my first license is from there) cannot. I don't mind not being able to use the DOM title here in California, but it seems unfair that old time OMD' s can. On Saturday, June 29, 2002, at 10:30 AM, 1 wrote: > , " Teresa Hall " < > Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote: > > I have heard that Doctoral degrees earned in other states will > not be > > recognized in California, has anyone else heard this? > > what type of recognition? Even if you got the docotoral in CA, > your scope of practice will remain the same and you will still be > an L.Ac. You could call yourself doctor, but you can do that now if > you have an old OMD. Are new mexico OMD's allowed to use > their degree title in CA? seems it would be the same thing. I > don't think CA has the authority to not allow the use a degree title > from an accredited US school. It woul be like saying if you got > your Ph.d. at harvard, it was not valid here. > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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