Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 I'd say half of my patients with African heritage have black/purple spots on their tongues. I can only conclude that it is heriditary pigmentation and not pathology that is causing this. Any comments? doug > black tongue > > A patient presented with a chief complaint that her tongue had changed > colors. It presented with patches of the tongue body appearing greyish > -black. A colleague said this was a sign of dampness, which he confirmed > by a few other questions about digestion and diet. Any thoughts? I have > never heard this, nor have I read a good account of the black tongue, > though several other teachers have associated it with serious illness like > cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 Hey Doug, I've noticed the same thing and have only been able to track this down to being a pigmentation issue unique to those of African genetic heritage. -al. wrote: > > I'd say half of my patients with African heritage have black/purple > spots on their tongues. I can only conclude that it is heriditary > pigmentation and not pathology that is causing this. Any comments? > doug > > > > black tongue > > > > A patient presented with a chief complaint that her tongue had changed > > colors. It presented with patches of the tongue body appearing greyish > > -black. A colleague said this was a sign of dampness, which he confirmed > > by a few other questions about digestion and diet. Any thoughts? I have > > never heard this, nor have I read a good account of the black tongue, > > though several other teachers have associated it with serious illness like > > cancer. > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 , wrote: > I'd say half of my patients with African heritage have black/ purple > spots on their tongues. I can only conclude that it is heriditary > pigmentation and not pathology that is causing this. Any comments? this patient is black, but I have not noticed this trend. However, she says it is a recent change and does not appear to be an acute drug or food reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > Hey Doug, > > I've noticed the same thing and have only been able to track this down > to being a pigmentation issue unique to those of African genetic heritage. I haven't had too many black patients living in lily white oregon for 14 years, but I now do recall that a few of my past black patients had this tongue presentation. At the time, it was not connected with race in my mind, so I forgot until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 I want to clarify something here. The pigmentation differences I've seen in Africans are on the tongue body. They remind me of the pattern on the skin of a Jersey cow, which is now used as the Gateway Computers logo. This is not about black coating or purple spots ala blood stagnation. This is the color of the tongue body that has some unusual variations in pigmentation. 1 wrote: > > , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > > Hey Doug, > > > > I've noticed the same thing and have only been able to track > this down > > to being a pigmentation issue unique to those of African > genetic heritage. > > I haven't had too many black patients living in lily white oregon for > 14 years, but I now do recall that a few of my past black patients > had this tongue presentation. At the time, it was not connected > with race in my mind, so I forgot until now. > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2002 Report Share Posted July 19, 2002 A rather late comment to question about black tongue and black spots on the tongue. My chinese teachers had different opinions about them: in older people they were thought to indicate the presence of blood stasis in the body, (see as an example page 196 and page 153 in my Atlas of chin tonguediagnosis). And of course black coating was seen as the result of an extreme development of cold or heat. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2002 Report Share Posted July 19, 2002 , BKirschb@a... wrote: > A rather late comment to question about black tongue and black spots on the > tongue. Just to be clear since the discussion rapidly shifted to what a black tongue coat means. The patient I saw had a few large black patches on the tongue body (about the size of a dime). It was not the coat. I had also heard blood stasis for this, but I didn't realize this was for elderly. this patient was young and female. Can anyone confirm that such tongue color ever indicates dampness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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