Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi group! Has anyone else obtained and read " The Dao to " ? I now have 2 copies. I had the great pleasure of being in a weekend long seminar in which D.E. Kendall was the lecturer. WOW, my thoughts may be forever changed! According to Dr. Kendall there are no Meridians. The translation to Meridians was a poor translation and apparantly everyone bought into it. If this is so... how could I possibly believe anything that has been translated? One of the magnificant things I love about this book is that Dr. Kendall has many flow type charts that depict what actually happens when a needle is inserted into the skin... being that I have a pretty good Neuro and physio background, what he said really, really makes sense to me! I am hopeful that he will be doing more lectures, as I really would love to know what his take is on herbs. Teresa Hall, Number one Daughter *S* Licensed in California and Arizona, Nationally certified in Herbs and Acupuncture, of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine at the Rand Institute for Recovery, Student of Acupuncture Orthopedics Member of CSOMA, LeTip International, and Greater San Diego Business Association Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Teresa Hall, Number one Daughter *S* of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine at the Rand Institute for Recovery Teresa, What type of Recovery are you dealing with? Substance abuse? By the way, when I was at the California Acupuncture College in the early 80's Deke Kendall was there and already well on his way to forming perspectives that challenge the status quo understanding...usually well thought out. Stephen Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 , " stephen " <stephen@b...> wrote: > By the way, when I was at the California Acupuncture College in the early > 80's Deke Kendall was there and already well on his way to forming > perspectives that challenge the status quo understanding...usually well > thought out. Deke spoke at symposium last year. quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 >Has anyone else obtained and read "The Dao to "? I now >have 2 copies. Sounds interesting... but can't find a copy listed on line. Do you have an ISBN number? Braxton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi Stephen, In addition to having my private practice, I work with a Multi-disciplinary group, we work with Pain and Addiction. Dr. Jerry Rand, M.D. is head of the institute and he believes that pain and addiction go together, he gets patients off of narcotics and teaches people how to tolerate pain and live more productive lives. According to him narcotics actually intensify pain receptors, so patients tend to do more narcotics with no decrease in pain. At our facility there are several Psychologists, CADAC Counselors, Physical Therapists, MD's, Intake specialists and myself. Dr. Rand also has several houses that patients can live while making the changes that take place, when one gets off of Narcotics, Alcohol and other substances. We have many substance abuse patients who come to us through drug court. I typically do not treat these patients unless they are having some sort of physical pain. With the patients who are " In-House " I do informational presentations on Nutrition, TCM, NADA protocol, Mandela Color Therapy etc. I also see many patients with work and motor vehicle type injuries. Dr. Rand's Model is primarily a medical - social model, meaning he gets patients off of narcotics and gets them on other drug regimes and then through socialized living, people can learn how to live again. There is also a large " 12 Step " componenet to the program. At times I will prescribe herbs, however there is the re-imbursement issue, as many patients do not have money for herbs, whereas insurances will pay for non-herb medcines. Sometimes we will get re-imbused on herbs through work comp if it is pre-approved and directly related to the incident. In Health, Teresa - " stephen " <stephen Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:20 AM RE: D.E. Kendall > Teresa Hall, Number one Daughter *S* > Director of Acupuncture & Oriental Medicine at the Rand Institute for > Recovery > > Teresa, > > What type of Recovery are you dealing with? Substance abuse? > > By the way, when I was at the California Acupuncture College in the early > 80's Deke Kendall was there and already well on his way to forming > perspectives that challenge the status quo understanding...usually well > thought out. > > Stephen > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare > practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing > in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, > including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 On Thursday, July 25, 2002, at 08:16 AM, Teresa Hall wrote: > > Hi group! > > Has anyone else obtained and read " The Dao to " ? I now > have > 2 copies. I had the great pleasure of being in a weekend long seminar > in > which D.E. Kendall was the lecturer. WOW, my thoughts may be forever > changed! According to Dr. Kendall there are no Meridians. The > translation > to Meridians was a poor translation and apparantly everyone bought into > it. > If this is so... how could I possibly believe anything that has been > translated? > (Z'ev) I'd like to get the book. . .and it is not available at amazon.com or redwing. How can I obtain it? I know Deke since the 80's. . . and have taken a course with him. Quite a scholarly guy, and he has done his homework on neuroanatomy and endocrinology. He also is self-taught in medical Chinese, and has studied the Nei Jing Su Wen for years. His neuroanatomical and endocrinological connections with the acupuncture holes is quite interesting. However, I don't necessarily agree with him about the channels or that qi doesn't exist. I'd like to see his argument in print, or perhaps you can explain it here, as to why he thinks everyone has bought into a bad translation of jing into meridians, channels, warps, etc., and what he he thinks it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 , " " <zrosenbe@s...> > (Z'ev) I'd like to get the book. . . and it is not available at > amazon.com or redwing. How can I obtain it? Will Morris posted Deke Kendall's address in another forum. Oxford doesn't seem to be promoting the book or able to ship it to the US from their UK website, so you need to order it directly from the author---$54. Deke Kendall 6105 Lake Lindero Drive Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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