Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Simon, Simon, and Simon Becker just emailed me privately to clue me in to the fact that someone else has created a logon for this list that can be confused with his. I did indeed think that the post below from from Simon Becker, and whatever Simon wrote it was no doubt taken aback by my comment that we don't know each other very well, since it doesn't seem that we know each other at all. Or do we? If this is what you meant, by " anonymous " posters, I think it's a somewhat different matter for one individual on the list to assume the identify of another. When I looked over the user name, it struck me that it was not likely a mere coincidence that Simon and Simon have such similar user names. So, Simon, who are you? Ken Message: 8 Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:51:27 -0000 " dallaskinguk " <dallasking Re: Digest Number 1069 , <yulong@m...> wrote: > > But let's get real. > > If someone came to you and said they > were expert in Shakespeare, but they > had to tell you in Chinese because they > couldn't speak English, what would you > think? > > Ken Come on Ken, you can't get away with this one; if we're talking about Shakespearian literature then off course it doesn't exist outside of language. Medicine is a different fruit, the question is, to what extent? Back to the issue of objective realities vs a relative reality conditioned by experience and language. I think that prehaps the pragmatic medical tide of maximum clinical results for minimum effort is flowing away from your position. However, for people wondering whether to put the effort into learning to read Chinese, prehaps other peoples' experiences would be interesting. My own, is of being inspired to learn to read medical Chinese in 1986 by Ted Kaptchuck, actually starting to do it in 1990, but being put off by my PhD supervisors who thought it wasn't necessary for the philosophical topic of " patterns of thought in Chinese medicine " . I disagreed, but found learning Chinese, working and doing the Phd together too much so I stopped the PhD and since have found myself in a constant dynamic between learning to read the language which I love and which has given me certain areas of expertise and insight whilst on the other hand spending the time reading and memorising the bulk of translated material necessary to be clinically effective and earn a living. At the moment I conclude that at the work front, time and energy would be better spent on translated texts, but that prehaps the learning of the language is important at some remove such as intellectual/ emotional fulfilment,ground breaking, teaching, writing, kudos, etc. So for some of those reasons I do it. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 , <yulong@m...> wrote: I think it's > a somewhat different matter for one > individual on the list to assume the > identify of another. I assume you are joking. Two people with the same first name. no one trying to assume any identities. But another reason to have a full signature at the bottom of one's posts, stating full name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 , <yulong@m...> wrote: > > > If this is what you meant, by > " anonymous " posters, I think it's > a somewhat different matter for one > individual on the list to assume the > identify of another. When I looked over > the user name, it struck me that it > was not likely a mere coincidence > that Simon and Simon have such > similar user names. > > So, Simon, who are you? > > Ken Dear Ken, A textual analysis reveals that it is indeed coincidence, Simon is not that uncommon a name, and as to the user name; my surname is King, Dallas is my wife's surname and the UK is where I live. As to my point that you can't get away with comparing the desirability of understanding English for being an expert on Shakespearean literature with that of Chinese and Chinese medicine, the spirit I responded in was that of friendly joust at what I took as an uncharacteristic longshot attempt to convince with superficial plausability. Simon King! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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