Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Dear Ken, Thanks for this information. Your response has been the most inspiring to look into the Chinese language. I have seen this " mutual fear " or " awe " among high level tai ji players a time or two. Thanks again. ~Fernando , <yulong@m...> wrote: > Julie, > > > > > > Is " mutual counteraction " of herbs (xiang wei) > > really a matter of one > > substance being able to reduce the toxic effect > > of another? > > Well, yes and no. The Chinese term means > " mutual fear " and as Wiseman explains the > meaning of the term on p.527 of the > Practical Dictionary, the sense of fear > here is " awe " , so that the functional > meaning of xiang1 wei4 is that two > medicinals categorized as having this > relationship will tend to hold one > another in awe, i.e., to make one > another less active. I guess I think > of it in terms of co-motion of ingredients > and their effects within a formula or > in combination. In this phrase the > Chinese terminology makes use of a > metaphor of the human emotion fear > or awe to describe the interactive > potentials of medicinals. So you have > to get the idea of what this emotion > produces in the way of a tendency > to move or act in people and then > apply this concept to the potentials > of any particular medicinals which > fit the description. > > If so, I am > > confused over numerous references in Bensky; > > for example, Mai Men Dong is > > said (according to some traditional sources) to > > counteract Bai Mu Er. But > > what possible side effect/toxic effect could > > Mai Men Dong OR Bai Mu Er have > > that would be counteracted? Or would need to be > > counteracted? > > Good questions. I don't think it's > necessary to restrict the use of > this term only to toxicity. I can't > really say to what extent in medical > literature xiang1 wei4 is used to > describe mutual " fear " or " awe " between > medicinals other than with respect > to their toxicity. But clearly in > the case you mention, someone has > used it that way since neither of > the medicinals mentioned is toxic. > > Perhaps Dr. Bensky can help to > clarify the usage, as it seems > that you are referring to his > book. > > > > Secondly, if a person consumed a rice cake > > before noticing that the other > > rice cakes in the package were teeming with > > little white worms, what should > > that person do? Do the digestive juices make > > short work of little white > > worms (versus contracting parasites via eggs)? > > Should the person drink an > > anti-parasitic formula just in case? (It wasn't > > I who consumed the pesky > > things.) > > Well, the old song doesn't say > what to do after eating worms. > Seems to me that people eat worms > all the time. Without knowing what > kind of pesky white worms were > eaten here, I guess it's not 100% > possible to say whether or not they > were likely to have been digested, > just as any other worms or critters > put into a stomach in chewed up bits. > > Lord knows what else was in the > rice cake, eh? Along with larvae > that may be more likely to survive > the acidic environment in the stomach > and find their way to some more hospitable > portion of this individual's digestive > tract, there could have been all manner > of stuff that could be considered > pathogenic. I think the way to go > about making a decision as to whether > or not to introduce a potentially > powerful anti-parasitic formula > is to rely on the standard rules > of diagnosis. > > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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