Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 > While not exactly a Chinese alternative, research > indicates that 1,500 mg of > calcium hydroxyapatite was effective in increasing > bone mass in post > menopausal women. Calcium hydroxyapatite is OK. However, Calcium citrate is best form of supplement. It has greater absorption rate and has a longer half-life time in the blood. humbly yours, Thomas ** The true measurment of success is not how many servants one has, but how many people one serves ** HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Dear Thomas: Not wishing to pick nits, I do have to say that the issue of calcium supplementation is an important one because so many of your female patients are taking calcium supplements whether you know it or not. Calcium citrate may have a longer half life in the blood, it may get there faster, however the purpose of supplementation in this case is to increase bone density. Therefore the calcium hydroxyapatite supplement would be preferred for cases of osteopenia because it is shown to increase bone density, whether or not it stays in the blood longer. The study I referred to measured bone density after one year of supplementation. And here my Western Pragmatism comes to the forefront when I say that it does not what the blood levels, absorption rates, etc., were when you want the patient to have increased bone mass. Jim Shattel at Metagenics Midwest would have the explicit details on this particular study if you want to contact him. His supplement company is one of the best I have seen for nutritional products of the Western variety. Guy Porter DrGRPorter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 , drgrporter@a... wrote: > > Calcium citrate may have a longer half life in the blood, it may get there > faster, however the purpose of supplementation in this case is to increase > bone density. Guy I was thinking the same thing. the issue was what has been proven safe and effective. Calcium citrate may work better, but that remains unproven at this time. So medicare would reimburse for the former, but not the latter, under the proposed legislation. So does calcium nourish the kidneys, like gui ban; it also seems to calm some wind signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Todd: I've been using calcium citrate as a kind of a poor substitute for Tiger bone---since they won't allow me in the zoo anymore ;-) --- even though it does't have the fire component that makes Tiger bone good for rheumatism or bi syndromes. It seems to work well in formulas for musculoskeletal problems. One of my favorite formulas to use it in is the old Tung Xue patent medicine formula which was found to have a number of pharmceutical adulterations (which made it work particularly well): Ba ji tian 4 Bu gu zhi 4 Dang gui 4 Dong gua zi 4 Du zhong 4 Gui ban 4 Gui zhi 4 Hu gol 4 Jiang huang 4 Lu jiao shuang 4 Mo yao 4 Mu gua 4 Mu xiang 4 Qin jiao 4 Ru xiang 4 She chuang zi 4 Xi xian cao 4 Xiao hui xiang 4 Xue jie 4 Zi ran tong 4 Niu xi 2 Xu duan 2 Hong hua 1 Jim Ramholz , " 1 " <@i...> wrote: > So does calcium nourish the kidneys, like gui ban; it also > seems to calm some wind signs. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Dear Todd: I was also thinking about the fact that the citrate form stays in the blood longer and therefore that it might be good for treating certain types of fibromyalgia patients. And from my experience and reading, there is often a strong wind component in patients with this western/allopathic diagnosis. SO I think we might have come to the same conclusion from different directions. Most western nutritionists agree that the first line of treatment in the case is to use a calcium/magnesium combination, and perhaps the citrate form may be one of the best if it stays in the extracellular fluid longer. Guy Porter DrGRPorter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Calcium hydroxyapatite is OK. However, Calciumcitrate is best form of supplement. It has greaterabsorption rate and has a longer half-life time in theblood.>>>Not true. Lane labs calcium is supposed to be the best. hydroxyapatite is supposed to better absorbed than citrate Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 calcium hydroxyapatite >>>Remember this is basically bone meal that has been processed Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Most western nutritionists agree that the first line of treatment in the case is to use a calcium/magnesium combination >>>Most studies show that CA supplementations can not increase bone density Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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