Complexity in Pulses: interexaminer reliabiity?

[Guest guest]

Of course. . ..

 

This is just a text I have more familiarity with. When Unschuld comes

out with his Nei Jing, I'm sure I'll spend lots of time with it. The

Chinese Nei Jing's I have are too difficult for me, and the English

translations (I have seven of them) are all unreliable.

 

 

On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 07:02 PM, WMorris116 wrote:

 

> Z'ev,

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> The pulse diagnosis metaphors found in the Nan Jing are primarily

> extrapolated from the Nei Jing.

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> Will

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> The Nan Jing uses many of these natural metaphors in describing pulses.

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[Guest guest]

I agree with the ideal design you present here - it is preferred. Senior doctors on staff provide excellent comentary. Jianf Fu Jiang has a senior expert and official moderator on Nei Jing teaching at her school - what a breath of fresh air.

A text with a rough English translation and the characters is sufficient to warrant exploration. I have had too many years waisted waiting for publications to arrive. My preference is to forge ahead with the available materials.

 

Will

 

As I've pointed out before, my opinion is that translations of classical texts should have the original Chinese, pinyin, transliteration, glossary and commentaries

[Guest guest]

That's right - we all make decisions for ourselves in such a context and they are neither right nor wrong........Will

 

 

You do the best you can with the best you have, of course. We're all in that boat.

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2002, at 07:49 AM, WMorris116 wrote:

[Guest guest]

Yes - one reason for me digging deeper into classical material was related to incomplete concepts in the S/H system (ie. wave form discussion). Both Shen and Hammer expressed a powerful aversion to classical literature during convesrations I had with them.

Will

 

In a message dated 8/30/02 8:46:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jramholz writes:

 

 

 

Did any of these senior doctor's commentary make you rethink something you were taught by Shen or Hammer?

[Guest guest]

With a text like the Nei Jing, the commentaries are very important,

because of the complexity. This is what I am looking forward to in the

Unschuld version. I also understand that Dr. Henry Lu's new version

will have commentaries as well.

 

As I've pointed out before, my opinion is that translations of

classical texts should have the original Chinese, pinyin,

transliteration, glossary and commentaries.

 

 

On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 08:30 PM, WMorris116 wrote:

 

> OK - I see ....

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> I just use the Schience and Technology Press version with the

> characteres and look them up or work with native Chinese speakers and

> iron the concepts out.

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> Will

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[Guest guest]

You do the best you can with the best you have, of course. We're all

in that boat.

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2002, at 07:49 AM, WMorris116 wrote:

 

> I agree with the ideal design you present here - it is preferred.

> Senior doctors on staff provide excellent comentary. Jianf Fu Jiang

> has a senior expert and official moderator on Nei Jing teaching at her

> school - what a breath of fresh air.

>

> A text with a rough English translation and the characters is

> sufficient to warrant exploration. I have had too many years waisted

> waiting for publications to arrive. My preference is to forge ahead

> with the available materials.

>

> Will

>

> As I've pointed out before, my opinion is that translations of

> classical texts should have the original Chinese, pinyin,

> transliteration, glossary and commentaries

>

>

>

>

<image.tiff>

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

> healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate

> academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety

> of professional services, including board approved online continuing

> education.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, WMorris116@A... wrote:

> I agree with the ideal design you present here - it is preferred.

Senior doctors on staff provide excellent comentary. Jianf Fu Jiang

has a senior expert and official moderator on Nei Jing teaching at

her school - what a breath of fresh air.

 

 

Will:

 

Did any of these senior doctor's commentary make you rethink

something you were taught by Shen or Hammer?

 

 

Jim Ramholz

[Guest guest]

, WMorris116@A... wrote:

> Yes - one reason for me digging deeper into classical material was

related to incomplete concepts in the S/H system (ie. wave form

discussion). Both Shen and Hammer expressed a powerful aversion to

classical literature during convesrations I had with them.

 

 

Will:

 

I'm surprised that they had an aversion to classical material. My

system, like yours, is very different from the orthodox classical

material but my teacher always emphasized reading the classics. Many

of the classes were him translating and commenting on the Suwen, etc.

 

 

Jim Ramholz