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Does anyone and especially the vets have thoughts on treating

respiratory allergies in horses with herbs? We have a Welsh pony with

small airways disease who has been improved but not well controlled

by steroid inhalers. His symptoms are recent, no cough, quite alot of

clear mucus, no infection, his wind can be good one day, rapid and

laboured the next, tendancy to loose bowel, huge appetite. Rather

than start more medication, like antihistamines, we have tried

acupuncture with the vets' agreement and now herbs .

The formula I have started is the core one I use in people for lung/

spleen vacuity asthma; Yu Ping Feng San plus di long, wu mei, chan

tui.

100g/day equivalent in conc' powder form. He weighs 270kg

Anything on this would be very welcome and if it is a good idea,

should I increase the dose to equivalent to human range?

Thanks

Simon King

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At 8:47 PM +0000 9/28/02, Simon King wrote:

>Does anyone and especially the vets have thoughts on treating

>respiratory allergies in horses with herbs?

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Jake Fratkin has experience consulting vets treating horses, and has

designed some formulae for them: Jpfratkin

 

Rory

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I got this short response from an equine vet in Belgium, Emiel van den

Bosch:

 

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I do not see a pattern of Spleen deficiency in this horse

I have had good success treating allergies in horses on condition I could

get

the right patterns,

Treating the allergy as a toxic fire will probably work in this pony.

Dose wise I only give a tea spoon of extract granulae morning and evening.

 

Emiel

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From my side I can add that us vets have a lot of work to do clarifying the

patterns we are seeing in animals. There is a large overlap with human

patterns, but as we talk more we each other we realise perhaps more

differences than we first thought. We don't have the benefit of clear pulse

and tongue info. A yellow tongue coat in a dog for instance doesn't seem to

exist. Panting probably mixes up the coats a bit. Dogs and cats don't sweat.

Does Yin/yang and upper/lower still hold if you are on 4 paws? We cant feel

radial pulses, we use femoral pulses, but most will not get much more info

than very general pulse qualities from this. Some vets use surrogate pulse

techniques.

 

If you all don't mind animal questions every now and then I would very much

appreciate all your input. The basic principles of pattern differentiation,

treatment principles and even prescriptions at this stage will be the same

for any species. As we get more experienced we will probably find dose

differences and big differences in the pharmacodynamics or energetics of the

different herbs in different species. As we are all new to this your

experience will help us clarify patterns more quickly.

 

For those interested we are starting a small study group on for

Traditional Chinese Veterinary Medicine (TCVM-list). However, with your

permission, I will continue to post to this forum as we will all be

beginners on the TCVM list and some have expressed an interest here.

 

All the best

 

Jimmy

 

ps - apologies for the long digest post last time.

 

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Jimmy Symmonds BSc BVSc MRCVS

 

Holistic Animal Care Centre

125 Magdalen Road

Oxford

OX4 1RQ

 

Tel: +44 (0) 1865 453570

Fax: +44 (0) 1865 423183

Mobile: 07884 438583

 

Email: jimmy

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