qi ye lian- correction

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I mistakenly wrote:

 

" ... Then the front says Paris, which is Qi Ye Lian... "

 

Paris is Qi Ye Yi Zhi Hua/Zao Xiu.

 

, " shoushou68 " <shanren@c...> wrote:

> Zhong Yao Da Ci Dian says (I'm only going to translate a bit of it

> here):

>

> " Schefflera arboricola Hayata, Scefflera venulosa Harms

>

> slightly bitter, warm

>

> expell wind and damp, invigorate blood and stop pain. Treats wind

> damp bi-pain, stomach pain, die-da bone injury, external injury with

> bleeding.

>

> Internal use: decoction 3-5 qian (9-15grams).

> External use: poultice on affected area.

>

> caution during preganancy. "

>

> That's the basic info. I would like to put this out there as someof

> you may have run in to this as well: some herb powder companies mix

up

> Qi Ye Lian and Qi Ye Yi Zhi Hua. These are NOT the same. I know

for

> a fact that Lotus/Evergreen has this problem, as does KPC. KPC has

> been alerted to this by Andy Ellis (according to folks at Spring

> Wind), but Evergreen is still mixing these up as far as I know. I

> wanted to order Qi Ye Yi Zhi Hua powder and called Lotus to see if

> they carried it. They told me that it's the same as Qi Ye Lian,

which

> I was sure it wasn't. I checked Zhong Yao Da Ci Dian and confirmed

> that info, and then called to talk to John Chen at lotus to alert

him

> to what his staff had told me. He proceeded to tell me that they

were

> the same, even after I told him I had checked ZYDCD. After that I

> decided not to order from them anymore (I've never particularly

liked

> their product anyway). Then I ordered some Qi Ye Yi Zhi Hua from

KPC

> and was amazed/disturbed to find the labeling on the bottle to be a

> bizzare mix of these two herbs. The lid says Qi Ye Lian in Chinese.

> The front and side of the label use pinyin Zao Xiu (which is another

> name for Qi Ye Yi Zhi Hua), and the Chinese says Qi Ye Yi Zhi Hua.

> Then the front says Paris, which is Qi Ye Lian, and the side says

> Schefflerae.... So I called KPC and they didn't know, but they told

> me to call Spring Wind, and apparently they've had others call as

well

> because they instantly knew what I was going to ask as soon as I

> mentioned these herbs. They said KPC was aware of the problem and

> should be fixing the labels.

>

> Hope this is of some use. :-)

>

> Greg

>

>

> , " tcmmeiguoren " <doctortim@a...>

wrote:

> > , " scott_s_blunk " <jinyinhua@a...>

> wrote:

> > > I am looking for accurate information on Qi Ye Lian, Herba

> > > Schefflerae Arboricolae. Neither Bensky nor my other herbal

texts

> > > have this listed. I would like actions, indications, dosages and

> > > contraindications if you have them.

> >

> >

> > I couldn't find a reference either, I even tried the Shen Nong Ben

> Cao Jing just for fun. I did find this link on the web for Radix

> Schefflerae Arboricola

> >

> > http://herb.damo-qigong.net/g001.htm

> >

> > The root and leaf of Schefflera arboricola Hayata, family

> Araliaceae:

> >

> > Characteristics

> > A vine shrub, 3 meters high. Stem terete, longitudinally striated.

> Leaves palmately compound, altemate; leaflets 7-9, long- obovate, 6-

10

> cm long, reticulate veins distinct. Bitter and sweet in taste, warm

in

> nature.

> >

> > Indication

> > 1. Promote blood circulation and remove blood stasis, expel wind

and

> alleviate pain: For rheumatism, trauma, headache, and other pains.

> Recently, also used for abdominal and biliary colics, and trigeminal

> neuralgia.

> > 2. Relieve asthma: For bronchial asthma and asthmatic bronchitis.

> >

> > Pharmacological Action

> > 1. Analgesic.

> > 2. Sedative.

> > 3. Antispasmodic.

> >

> > Administration Decoction: 15-30g

> > Injection: 2 ml (equivalent to 10-20g of crude herb) IM 1-3 times