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, ajeffres@a... wrote:

> I have seen many cases where small, sometimes _very_ small doses of herbs

> were more effective than large doses. I like Ted Kaptchuk's write up on

> dosage for Constitutional, Spiritual, Mental and Physical effects in the

Kan

> literature.

 

I have no personal issue with people using any dosage they want. and also

do not dispute anyone's claims of success. I just want students and

others to be aware that there is no basis in either the historical or

scientific literature for the miniscule doses suggested by some parties.

Such dosages may indeed work, but until I see research that comfirms this

clinically or even pharmacologically, I will follow history and science

as my guides. Ted also said that much of what we see in private practice

is no doubt due to placebo. It is interesting what sticks with you when

you hear a speaker. We all want to hear our biases confirmed by someone

who supposedly knows the deal.

 

As long as people and their patients know that they are treading in

uncharted waters by prescribing minute doses of herbs for psychological

complaints, there is no problem. But as Flaws has pointed out, the

Chinese medical literature is actually replete with cases and studies

using large doses of herbs for psych complaints and none he could find

supporting the methodology you describe. Whoever said CM was made up by

trial and error is partially correct. New ideas arose but were never

accepted unless they conformed to core principles and then they must also

stand the test of time and finally the test of research in modern china.

I am willing to test new ideas when old ones fail me, otherwise why

reinvent the wheel. But lets be honest about what is based in history and

what is based in speculation. Its all about being informed.

 

 

Chinese Herbs

 

 

" Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre

minds " -- Albert Einstein

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Whoever said CM was made up by trial and error is partially correct. New ideas arose but were never accepted unless they conformed to core principles and then they must also stand the test of time

>>>Todd I do not think we have record for such a process. Things were not that organized

Alon

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