Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 I am curious what kind of studies people are currently involved in. I know a few of you have mentioned that you have undertaken the study of medical chinese. What else are people doing to enhance their clinical skills and what specific resources are you using? What is helpful? What is not? Currently, I am rereading Qin Bo Wei to prepare myself to assist in the revisions to PCOM's upper level formulation classes. This book is so full of practical insight, I have come back on many occasions. I am also reading an excellent new materia medica, which will also prove quite useful in these upper level classes (Chinese Materia Medica: Combinations and Applications, Xu Li, Wang Wei, Donica Publishing). I am peer reviewing a colleague's book, something I do several times per year. I am refreshing myself with chinese 4 needle and korean 6 needle five phase protocols (partly because my students have interest in these things and I have become curious about Jim's take on five phase and endocrine feedback loops). In preparation for mandated ACAOM revisions in all CCAOM member schools herbology programs, all classes in the herb series must give due attention to issues of toxicology, pharmacognosy and drug herb interaction. for these subjects, I am using a book by Simon Mills recommended by Z'ev. It is quite good (principles and practice of phytotherapy). Great introduction to " phytochemistry " . Mills had an older book which may now be out of print in which he did some interesting speculation on the correlation between TCM properties of herbs (taste and temp) with their dominant biochemical families. Less good is Interactions between Orthodox Drugs and Chinese Medicinal products, which I must reluctantly read. Kevin Ergil also has some good work on toxicology. Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 I am also reading an excellent new materia medica, which will also prove quite useful in these upper level classes (Chinese Materia Medica: Combinations and Applications, Xu Li, Wang Wei, Donica Publishing). >>>Have not seen it can tell us more about it thanks alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 This Materia Medica also has interesting information about the legal status of various herbs in the UK. It is beautifully-designed, with useful tables on herb combinations for various applications (hence its title). I'm really pleased with this book. Julie I am also reading an excellent new materia medica, which will also prove quite useful in these upper level classes (Chinese Materia Medica: Combinations and Applications, Xu Li, Wang Wei, Donica Publishing). >>>Have not seen it can tell us more about it thanks alon Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 what julie said. great book. follows COMP translation standards. dare I say it. naaah. , Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote: > This Materia Medica also has interesting information about the legal status of various herbs in the UK. > It is beautifully-designed, with useful tables on herb combinations for various applications (hence its title). I'm really pleased with this book. > > Julie > > > I am also reading an excellent new materia medica, which will also prove quite useful in these upper level classes (Chinese Materia Medica: Combinations and Applications, Xu Li, Wang Wei, Donica Publishing). > >>>Have not seen it can tell us more about it > thanks alon > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 This Materia Medica also has interesting information about the legal status of various herbs in the UK. It is beautifully-designed, with useful tables on herb combinations for various applications (hence its title). I'm really pleased with this book. >>>Does it have a lot information that is not in Benski Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 I find the organization of the text to be excellent, especially the tables, indexes, and most importantly, the combinations of medicinals. However, otherwise I am disappointed with the lack of additional medicinals not included in the Bensky text (there are 5000 in the official Chinese materia medica), and the information on each medicinal is still limited, a " Reader's Digest " version of herbal medicine. On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 04:39 PM, wrote: > what julie said. great book. follows COMP translation standards. > dare I say > it. naaah. > > > > , Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote: >> This Materia Medica also has interesting information about the legal >> status > of various herbs in the UK. >> It is beautifully-designed, with useful tables on herb combinations >> for > various applications (hence its title). I'm really pleased with this > book. >> >> Julie >> >> >> I am also reading an excellent new materia medica, which will also >> prove > quite useful in these upper level classes (Chinese Materia Medica: > Combinations and Applications, Xu Li, Wang Wei, Donica Publishing). >>>>> Have not seen it can tell us more about it >> thanks alon >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Z'ev - Where can these be had? tia Will Maimonides' 'On Asthma' Ibn Al-Jazzar's "Treatise on Fevers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 At 4:46 PM -0800 12/2/02, ALON MARCUS wrote: Does it have a lot information that is not in Benski -- Not particularly. In fact, the sections on pharmacological and clinical research are much better in Bensky & Gamble, and that's a feature I find quite interesting and useful. I'm surprised Xu & Wang didn't include more rather than less. The sections on herb combination in X & W seem to have more choices of herbs for each function, whereas in B & G the explanation of the combination seems slightly better. Some herbs end up in different categories, eg. chi shao is in the clear heat cool blood section in X & W, whereas in B & G it is in the invigorate the blood category, with CHCB being the second function. Rory -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 In response to your query about what people study and practice to develop greater clinical skill, my answer is tai4ji2. I'd say that over the years, my study and practice of tai4ji2 has been the single most fruitful investment of my time and attention, particularly when it comes to development of clinical sensibilities and skills. As to what I'm reading and studying... I'm reading: Why God Won't Go Away The Book of Songs the new Chinese Medical Chinese and Introduction to English Terminology Common Sense by Thomas Paine. I've also just met a new Chinese tutor who insists she can make me literate. But we'll see about that. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Not particularly. In fact, the sections on pharmacological and clinical research are much better in Bensky & Gamble, and that's a feature I find quite interesting and useful. I'm surprised Xu & Wang didn't include more rather than less. The sections on herb combination in X & W seem to have more choices of herbs for each function, whereas in B & G the explanation of the combination seems slightly better. Some herbs end up in different categories, eg. chi shao is in the clear heat cool blood section in X & W, whereas in B & G it is in the invigorate the blood category, with CHCB being the second function. >>>Thanks Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 My at-the-moment reading and study list: Chinese Medical Chinese Outline of Classical Chinese Maimonides' 'On Asthma' Ibn Al-Jazzar's " Treatise on Fevers " Medical Essays of Sir William Osler On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 06:55 PM, dragon90405 wrote: > I'm reading: > Why God Won't Go Away > The Book of Songs > the new Chinese Medical Chinese and > Introduction to English Terminology > Common Sense by Thomas Paine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 , Rory Kerr <rorykerr@w...> wrote: the sections on pharmacological and > clinical research are much better in Bensky & Gamble, and that's a > feature I find quite interesting and useful. I'm surprised Xu & Wang > didn't include more rather than less. I like this stuff, too, but perhaps they were being conservative about what research they found valid. I like the fact that unlike Bensky, each of the research citiations are directly footnoted to a specific source. The sections on herb > combination in X & W seem to have more choices of herbs for each > function, whereas in B & G the explanation of the combination seems > slightly better. I like the chart format in X & W; it makes it easy to compare combinations. each entry lists the functions addressed by the combination, a few combinations and the specific indications for each combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Maimonide's text can be ordered from amazon.com. It is published by Brigham Young University Press in Provo, Utah, and translated by Gerrit Bos. Very reasonably priced. Ibn Al-Jazzar's text is also translated by Gerrit Bos, and is available from Columbia University Press. Warning: very expensive! On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 10:25 PM, WMorris116 wrote: > Maimonides' 'On Asthma' > > Ibn Al-Jazzar's " Treatise on Fevers " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 John O'Connor at Eastland Press told me that they are planning to completely redo the pharmacological data in the next edition of the Bensky Materia Medica due in 2003. On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 10:28 PM, wrote: > the sections on pharmacological and >> clinical research are much better in Bensky & Gamble, and that's a >> feature I find quite interesting and useful. I'm surprised Xu & Wang >> didn't include more rather than less. > > I like this stuff, too, but perhaps they were being conservative about > what > research they found valid. I like the fact that unlike Bensky, each > of the > research citiations are directly footnoted to a specific source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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