Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Julie wrote- " I have also given rather high doses to patients with severe constipation and sometimes NO RESULTS! Even with short cooking! I love Da Huang for all it can do, but sometimes Peach Kernel pills are more reliable. " Yes, but Peach Kernel pills have Da Huang. I've used Da Huang in does of 6 to 8 grams raw and not gottn much result either. Perhaps if peristalsis is already occurring, but the stool is not evaculating for another reason (Sticky, dry) the Da Huang does not help that much. I don't like to use it anyway. I've been favoring Zhi Ke and Jie Geng at high doses (12 or 15 grams) along with a seed like Tao Ren. Why exactly do they put Quiang Huo in so many of the patents for constipation? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 , Gabrielle Mathieu <gabriellemathieu> wrote: > Julie wrote- " I have also given rather high doses to > patients with severe constipation and > sometimes NO RESULTS! Even with short cooking! I love Da > Huang > for all it can do, but sometimes Peach Kernel pills are > more reliable. " > > > Yes, but Peach Kernel pills have Da Huang. I've used Da > Huang in does of 6 to 8 grams raw and not gottn much result > either. As I have become interested in treating kidney disease in the last few years I have used da huang to reduce urea levels as is standard in China. In one case where da huang didn't produce any bowel looseness when cooked I gave it as a powder, 1g a day(not concentrate), it worked although I remember the patient had some cramping. Simon King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 It only occurs in one root prescription, Li Dong-yuan's Run chang wan/Moisten the Intestines Pill. The script is used for intestinal wind/chang feng , a condition of intestinal bleeding caused by 'taxation determient to the zang-fu, disharmony of qi and blood, and wind-cold and heat toxin contending in the large intestine.' (Wiseman dictionary). If this is the prescription, it shouldn't be used for simple constipation. There is another script also called Run chang wan from Dr. Shen, which is for chang ku/dessicated intestines, which has neither da huang or qiang huo. This is the one that should be the more commonly used one, for constipation caused by yin and blood vacuity in the large intestine, commonly used with the elderly or postpartum. On Sunday, December 8, 2002, at 11:24 AM, Gabrielle Mathieu wrote: > Why exactly do they put Quiang Huo in so many of the > patents for constipation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Yes, da huang has great utility in aiding kidney function in nephrotic disorders. It is sometimes combined with fu zi in kidney diseases. On Sunday, December 8, 2002, at 12:27 PM, Simon King <dallasking wrote: > As I have become interested in treating kidney disease in the last > few years I have used da huang to reduce urea levels as is standard > in China. In one case where da huang didn't produce any bowel > looseness when cooked I gave it as a powder, 1g a day(not > concentrate), it worked although I remember the patient had some > cramping. > > Simon King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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