Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 To all, On a recent excursion to the central mountains of Taiwan (my current home), I came across an herb that is sold by the bag (about one jin) that everyone claims to have Li supporting properties. It even has dan3 (gallbladder) in its name, and the translation of qi1ye4dan3 means "seven leaf gallbladder". Besides qi1ye4lian2 (bitter and sweet, recently used for biliary colics), none of my books lists this herb. Any ideas, other names, please let me know. Thanks much, Daniel C. Luthi, Nutritionist Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 It is in the zhong yao da ci dian. I'll give a report on it a bit later. On Sunday, December 8, 2002, at 11:26 PM, daniel luthi wrote: > To all, > > On a recent excursion to the central mountains of Taiwan (my current > home), I came across an herb that is sold by the bag (about one jin) > that everyone claims to have Li supporting properties. It even has > dan3 (gallbladder) in its name, and the translation of qi1ye4dan3 > means " seven leaf gallbladder " . Besides qi1ye4lian2 (bitter and sweet, > recently used for biliary colics), none of my books lists this herb. > > Any ideas, other names, please let me know. Thanks much, > > Daniel C. Luthi, Nutritionist > > > <image.tiff> > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 Here is an extract from online info on the herb. This adaptogenic herb commonly grows in the mountainous regions of Southern China, Japan, Korea, and India. The plant is in the gourd family. This powerful herb has been used for centuries in these regions. It has a traditional use for treating bronchitis in China, and as a general longevity tonic. It has been known as " Southern Ginseng " because of its tonic similarity to Ginseng. It has a high quantity of " gypenosides " which are very similar to that of ginsenosides found in various ginsengs. Gynostemna is rich in amino acids, antioxidants and minerals. A pharmacological review from 1988 identifies 82 individual saponins, many of, which were effective in treating tumors, decreasing blood lipid levels, and in treating ulcers. In 1995 clinical trials were carried out at China's Shanghai Medical University to determine this adaptogen's effect on cellular immunity in patients with lung cancer undergoing combined radiotherapy and chemotherapy. The results suggested that Gynostemna could protect patients' cellular immunity when the patients are receiving a combination therapy. Studies in 1991 on heart function and blood pressure showed that if significantly lowered blood pressure, and increased coronary blood flow, including that to the brain. Specifically anti-artheriosclerotic effects have also been reported. In 1990 the anti-platelet aggregation effect of gypenosides extract, was studied by J. Wu in test tube and in vivo environments. The analysis found that these compounds significantly increased platelet cyclic adenosine monophosphate (camp) levels, which in turn held back the sticking together of platelet-aggregation. There is a wider availability of Gynostemna over that of Panax Ginseng. On Sunday, December 8, 2002, at 11:26 PM, daniel luthi wrote: > To all, > > On a recent excursion to the central mountains of Taiwan (my current > home), I came across an herb that is sold by the bag (about one jin) > that everyone claims to have Li supporting properties. It even has > dan3 (gallbladder) in its name, and the translation of qi1ye4dan3 > means " seven leaf gallbladder " . Besides qi1ye4lian2 (bitter and sweet, > recently used for biliary colics), none of my books lists this herb. > > Any ideas, other names, please let me know. Thanks much, > > Daniel C. Luthi, Nutritionist > > > <image.tiff> > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 Hi I found, by accident, a possible reference to this herb. It is a bit abstract I know. But, it is listed as a medicinal in which this company manufactures. You might be able to contact them and learn all about that herb. Who knows? Just a try. http://www.ynzwyy.com/english/about.htm daniel luthi <solothurner wrote: To all, On a recent excursion to the central mountains of Taiwan (my current home), I came across an herb that is sold by the bag (about one jin) that everyone claims to have Li supporting properties. It even has dan3 (gallbladder) in its name, and the translation of qi1ye4dan3 means "seven leaf gallbladder". Besides qi1ye4lian2 (bitter and sweet, recently used for biliary colics), none of my books lists this herb. Any ideas, other names, please let me know. Thanks much, Daniel C. Luthi, Nutritionist Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 Z'ev - are you sure uit's gynostemma? If so, then it also called jiao gulan Name Gynostemma pentaphyllum Jiaogulan (Chinese: twisting-vine-orchid) Gynostemma has been recently classified in traditional Chinese medical terms as " sweet, slightly bitter, neutral, warm, enhancing yin and supporting yang " Family Gynostemma is a member of the Cucurbitaceae or cucumber family. History The earliest written reference to Gynostemma occurs in the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644 AD). In 1406 Zhu Xiao describes Gynostemma in his medical text Materia Medica for Famine. Here the herb is described mainly as a dietary aid in times of hardship. Later, around 1578 Li Shi Zhen describes Gynostemma in his text Compendium of Materia Medica. This is the earliest reference to the use of Gynostemma as a drug, being used to treat blood in the urine, oedema, tumours and trauma. During the Qing Dynasty (1644-1912 AD) Wu Qi Jun again includes Gynostemma in his materia medica, Textual Investigations of Medicinal Plants, and adds a little more detail to the previous texts. In 1972 a team of researchers trained in traditional Chinese medicine and western medicine studied the effect of Gynostemma on 537 people with tracheo-bronchitis. The results were good and Gynostemma appeared in the Dictionary of Chinese Materia Medica, described as being anti-inflammatory and expectorant. Active constituents The main active constituents in Gynostemma are the 82 gypenosides . These are triterpenoid saponins similar to the 28 ginsenosides of Ginseng. They have a basic four ring steroid nucleus unlike the typical five-ring structure of triterpenoid saponin, they are triterpenoid saponins with a dammarane skeleton belonging to the diol series. Gypenosides 3, 4, 8 and 12 are identical with saponins found in Ginseng, ginsenosides Rb1, Rb3, Rd and F2. Distribution: Gynostemma is distributed in the provinces of Shaanxi and Yunnan. Distribution in other portions of Asia includes Bangladesh, India, Japan, Korea, Laos, Myanmar, Nepal, Sri Lunka, and Vietnam. The elevational range in China is 300-3200 meters placing in the mountainous ranges. There are 13 varieties under this genus, all in Asia---China has 11, and among the 11 there are 7 that grow only in China. China has a rich wild resource of Gynostemma pentaphyllum. It is broadly distributed over Qin Ling and the 15 provinces to the south of the Changjiang River. The highest quality Gynostemma pentaphyllum is said to come from the banks of the Changjiang River (the Changjiang Gorge region), from the Shen Nong Jia region, from Wu Shan and from the Xing Dou Shan range. Will Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 Yes, Will, it is listed as qi ye dan/gynostemna pentaphyllum in the zhong yao da ci dian. Interesting. Since the description is the same as what you post here, I won't bother to repeat. On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 03:00 PM, WMorris116 wrote: > Z'ev - are you sure uit's gynostemma? If so, then it also called jiao > gulan > > Name > Gynostemma pentaphyllum > Jiaogulan (Chinese: twisting-vine-orchid) > > Gynostemma has been recently classified in traditional Chinese medical > terms as " sweet, slightly bitter, neutral, warm, enhancing yin and > supporting yang " > Family > Gynostemma is a member of the Cucurbitaceae or cucumber family. > History > The earliest written reference to Gynostemma occurs in the Ming > Dynasty (1368-1644 AD). In 1406 Zhu Xiao describes Gynostemma in his > medical text Materia Medica for Famine. Here the herb is described > mainly as a dietary aid in times of hardship. Later, around 1578 Li > Shi Zhen describes Gynostemma in his text Compendium of Materia > Medica. This is the earliest reference to the use of Gynostemma as a > drug, being used to treat blood in the urine, oedema, tumours and > trauma. During the Qing Dynasty (1644-1912 AD) Wu Qi Jun again > includes Gynostemma in his materia medica, Textual Investigations of > Medicinal Plants, and adds a little more detail to the previous texts. > In 1972 a team of researchers trained in traditional Chinese medicine > and western medicine studied the effect of Gynostemma on 537 people > with tracheo-bronchitis. The results were good and Gynostemma appeared > in the Dictionary of Chinese Materia Medica, described as being > anti-inflammatory and expectorant. > Active constituents > The main active constituents in Gynostemma are the 82 gypenosides . > These are triterpenoid saponins similar to the 28 ginsenosides of > Ginseng. They have a basic four ring steroid nucleus unlike the > typical five-ring structure of triterpenoid saponin, they are > triterpenoid saponins with a dammarane skeleton belonging to the diol > series. Gypenosides 3, 4, 8 and 12 are identical with saponins found > in Ginseng, ginsenosides Rb1, Rb3, Rd and F2. > Distribution: > Gynostemma is distributed in the provinces of Shaanxi and Yunnan. > Distribution in other portions of Asia includes Bangladesh, India, > Japan, Korea, Laos, Myanmar, Nepal, Sri Lunka, and Vietnam. > The elevational range in China is 300-3200 meters placing in the > mountainous ranges. > There are 13 varieties under this genus, all in Asia---China has 11, > and among the 11 there are 7 that grow only in China. China has a rich > wild resource of Gynostemma pentaphyllum. It is broadly distributed > over Qin Ling and the 15 provinces to the south of the Changjiang > River. The highest quality Gynostemma pentaphyllum is said to come > from the banks of the Changjiang River (the Changjiang Gorge region), > from the Shen Nong Jia region, from Wu Shan and from the Xing Dou Shan > range. > > > Will Morris > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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