Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 Hello everyone, My name is John Wysong and I am new to your group. I have a practice in Columbia, Md and recieved my training in herbs at PCOM in San Diego,CA and MITCM in Bethesda, Md. I currently have a patient who has been diagnosed with a parathyroid adenoma and would appreciate any information or experiences that anyone might have in treating this problem with Chinese Herbs. Thanks, John Wysong, L.Ac. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 , john wysong < bear7_77> wrote: > > I currently have a patient who has been diagnosed with a parathyroid adenoma and would appreciate any information or experiences that anyone might have in treating this problem with Chinese Herbs. > If you submit the case details, I am sure someone would be glad to help. the information you need depends on the pattern diagnosis. this the standard form. 1) Chief complaint/Chinese disease (bing) 2) Biomedical Dx and supporting lab tests 3) Relevant Medical History, include habits, diet, exercise, etc. 4) questioning examination (subjective) 5) pulse & nbsp; and palpation examination (objective) 6) tongue and observation examination (objective) 7) the pattern(s) and treatment principles you chose, including your rationale (unless this is your question) (assessment) 8) herbs used (unless this is your question) (plan) 9) other treatments or lifestyle changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 > john wysong <bear7_77 > > Tue Jan 07, 2003 12:40:08 PM US/Pacific > (AT) inetarena (DOT) com > parathyroid adenoma > > Actually I am not looking for help with the pattern diagnosis or herb selection. > > What I am looking for is whether people are successfully treating this problem with > > Chinese Herbs and how often it is successful (ie %), regardless of the TCM pattern. > > Even though I know that blood stasis and phlegm accumulation are the typical causes of adenomas. And that blood stasis and phlegm accumulation are treatable with chinese herbs. There is an increadible deficiency of information on just how successful Chinese Herbs are with various problems from the western perspective. > > This is important because my patient would like to avoid the surgery that his doctor is recommending and has asked me whether I can help. Theoretically the answer is yes. But what is going on clinically? What % of people diagnosed with parathyroid adenomas are able to avoid surgery because of treatment with chinese herbs? This is information that I need to know before talking to my patient and probably his doctor. > > Sincerely, John Wysong > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > Chinese Herbs "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds" -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Dear Group, I think John Wysong is right: we need more information on actual treatment efficacy. This is the information I always hope to get but never do in continuing education lectures. Most presenters just give more theory and repetition of what I learned in school. Ask any acupuncturist how much success they have with back pain or menstrual pain, and they can tell you. But how many have treated even ONE case of parathyroid adenoma? I'm not blaming anyone, but I just don't think most of us have treated enough of these specialized cases to be able to answer John's question. Julie John Wysong wrote: Actually I am not looking for help with the pattern diagnosis or herb selection.What I am looking for is whether people are successfully treating this problem withChinese Herbs and how often it is successful (ie %), regardless of the TCM pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 think John Wysong is right: we need more information on actual treatment efficacy. This is the information I always hope to get but never do in continuing education lectures. Most presenters just give more theory and repetition of what I learned in school. Ask any acupuncturist how much success they have with back pain or menstrual pain, and they can tell you. But how many have treated even ONE case of parathyroid adenoma? I'm not blaming anyone, but I just don't think most of us have treated enough of these specialized cases to be able to answer John's question. >>>>Its nice to finally see this kind of discussion Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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