Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Ken and others, I will try again to post the characters.. But they are very simple¡. Wiry (xian2) girdling (dai4) rapid (shuo4) There is also no passage. Just those 3 characters. I will post a piece of the translation so one can see the format. But here are the characters¡ ÏÒ´øÊý Qi depression transforming to fire Red yellow Wiry rapid Phlegm-Qi bind Phlegm-Qi bind Thin slimy Slippery wiry Qi depression phlegm-heat red yellow Wiry girdling rapid ÏÒ´øÊý (Hope this table came through¡) but notice the wiry rapid pulse 2 patterns above the girdling. This pulse just contained the basic xian2 shuo4. ¨C This xian2 shuo4 appears VERY often in this book and even on this page. (without girdling.) Chip Chace saw the passage and was unsure what the girdling pulse was, but did not get the impression that it was a conjunction. I will ask him again when he gets back into town. But I checked, Bob is right sometimes dai4 is used as a conjunction, but again I do not know if it really applies here. The interesting thing to ponder is that the element of phlegm (heat), in comparison to the qi depression ¡§¡è fire, has warranted the girdling character. Maybe that gives a clue¡ - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 , " " < @h...> wrote: > I will try again to post the characters.. a good way to post characters online is make a PDF file and upload it to the files section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 , " <@i...> " <@i...> wrote: > , " " < > @h...> wrote: > > > I will try again to post the characters.. > > a good way to post characters online is make a PDF file and upload it to the > files section > Did they not come through,? I am seeing them... But I will make a PDF if people like.. -JAson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Jason: Thanks for posting part of the format. In this case, it looks to be that the pulses are generally wiry and rapid, but with an inflated quality or girdling in the middle jiao due to the phlegm heat; hence the dia4. Jim Ramholz , " " <@h...> wrote: > I will try again to post the characters.. But they are very simple¡. > Wiry (xian2) girdling (dai4) rapid (shuo4) There is also no passage. Just those 3 characters. > > I will post a piece of the translation so one can see the format. But here are the characters¡ > > > > ÏÒ´øÊý > > > > > Qi depression transforming to fire > > Red > > > > yellow > > Wiry rapid > > > Phlegm-Qi bind > > Phlegm-Qi bind > > > > Thin slimy > > Slippery wiry > > > Qi depression phlegm-heat > > red > > yellow > > Wiry girdling rapid > > ÏÒ´øÊý > > > > > > (Hope this table came through¡) but notice the wiry rapid pulse 2 > patterns above the girdling. This pulse just contained the basic xian2 > shuo4. ¨C This xian2 shuo4 appears VERY often in this book and even on > this page. (without girdling.) Chip Chace saw the passage and was unsure > what the girdling pulse was, but did not get the impression that it was > a conjunction. I will ask him again when he gets back into town. But I > checked, Bob is right sometimes dai4 is used as a conjunction, but again > I do not know if it really applies here. The interesting thing to > ponder is that the element of phlegm (heat), in comparison to the qi > depression ** fire, has warranted the girdling character. Maybe that > gives a clue¡ > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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