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Alon-

 

Why do think using singles is better ?

 

Mark

 

 

Mintong had a more complex taste. The formula I ordered

from all the four companies was Yu Ping Feng san.

 

 

 

 

>>>I think its better to do single herbs

 

 

 

 

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Why do think using singles is better

>>If you are relying on smell and taste to tell if an extract is "good" than you need to know how the raw herb tastes and smells. It is easier to compare single herbs than decoctions because of their simplicity.

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Does anyone have info on bioavailability of crude powers vs extracts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Stephen Bonzak

Monday, May 07, 2007 12:12 PM

Re: Re: Standards for pattern discrimination

 

 

Al-

 

All of the practitioners in our study had the same training (two were

from the same school if I remember). They agreed a majority of the

time, but when you corrected it for chance (a la kappa), the results

were much poorer than we expected. Calibration is something that I

also think is extremely important for designing research that uses

tongue as part of pattern differentiation. There is so much basic work

to be done, IMO, that the idea of designing research studies that

differentiate according to pattern seems dubious. We need to work out

the kinks on how to separate according to pattern so as not to

introduce bias first.

 

-Steve

 

On May 7, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Al Stone wrote:

 

> I agree that inter-rater reliability is a problem in terms of

> research,

> however it was my observation that those who favored the same style

> had a

> much greater agreement than those who operate out of different styles

> or

> schools of thought.

>

> While my pulse skills weren't that great when i was in China, I still

> found

> a great deal of agreement regarding the basics. As for tongue

> appearances,

> I'm reminded of a study that was attempted a few years back in which

> there

> was something like five of us being tested. Two of us had attended

> the same

> school and worked with a similar treatment style (TCM). Our agreement

> was

> far greater than those who came from other schools and styles.

>

> One thing that I believe that would be of benefit though perhaps a

> slightly

> different research topic is providing a calibration exercise for

> those being

> tested. For instance, show the testees examples the different tongue

> colors,

> shapes, and other criteria. THEN show them unlabeled images and have

> them

> rate them based on a finite list of appearance options that were

> presented

> during the calibration portion of the study. That would provide us

> some data

> as to whether or not our eyes are even seeing the same thing.

>

> Without that calibration portion of the research, we may continue to

> trip

> over inter-rater reliability issues.

>

> -al.

>

> --

>

> Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

>

>

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