Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Par, One thing I'd recommend to your patient is to study taiji. I don't know of any studies that confirm this, but one of the ideas in taiji relates to the density of bones. And the practice is aimed, in one aspect, at increasing the density of the bones. Without going into it, as it is described by Cheng Man Qing elsewhere, the internal practice of taiji can maximize the accumulation of qi in the bones. The bones, of course, are living tissue and from the marrow on out are affected by the method of use employed in feeding and animating the body. In my experience regular taiji practice regulates the circulation of qi and blood, tends to harmonize the channels and network vessels and to generally organize the body and make it whole. This wholeness is expressed at the level of the bones as whole healthy bones. I'm also reminded of a notion attributed to Peng Zhu, the legendary Methusalah of ancient China who lived beyond 800 years...in story at least... and who said, You can take all the medicines you want but if you don't practice the art of yin and yang (meaning, among other things in the context of this tale, the art of the bed chamber or sexual benefit) all the medicine in the world will have no real or lasting value. Of course the sexual function is directly linked to what we call kidney in Chinese medicine. So it would be another avenue of approach. Ken , " Par Scott " <parufus@e...> wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I have a patient who is coming in for " balance " . She is 53 years old, had one of the smoothest menopauses on record about three years ago, and apart from a little spleen deficiency from a recent bout of the flu seems very healthy and well adjusted. What I mean to say is, there are no signs of a kidney pattern of any sort, yin yang, qi, jing. After we discussed things for a while she mentioned she got a bone scan and her doctor didn't like her bone density, saying she was at risk for problems down the line. She is moderately active, dances does yoga, has a pretty good diet, with what seems like a reasonable level of calcium intake. > > What sort of formulas would be appropriate for this? > Is there any Chinese research or typical pattern breakdowns? > Since this kind of thing would probably involve the kidney, and there are no kidney signs that I can define at this point, should I treat kidney anyway on the aging=progressive decline of jing theory? > > As always, thanks for the help, > > Par Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hi Everybody, I have a patient who is coming in for "balance". She is 53 years old, had one of the smoothest menopauses on record about three years ago, and apart from a little spleen deficiency from a recent bout of the flu seems very healthy and well adjusted. What I mean to say is, there are no signs of a kidney pattern of any sort, yin yang, qi, jing. After we discussed things for a while she mentioned she got a bone scan and her doctor didn't like her bone density, saying she was at risk for problems down the line. She is moderately active, dances does yoga, has a pretty good diet, with what seems like a reasonable level of calcium intake. What sort of formulas would be appropriate for this? Is there any Chinese research or typical pattern breakdowns? Since this kind of thing would probably involve the kidney, and there are no kidney signs that I can define at this point, should I treat kidney anyway on the aging=progressive decline of jing theory? As always, thanks for the help, Par Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 , " Par Scott " wrote: there are no kidney signs that I can define at this point, should I treat kidney anyway on the aging progressive decline of jing theory? Aren't aging and the loss of bone density indications enough of declining kidney yang? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Par, Blue Poppy publishes quite a lot of information on the Chinese herbal treatment and prevention of osteoporosis, both in hardcopy form and audio (tape or CD). Bob , " dragon90405 <yulong@m...> " <yulong@m...> wrote: > Par, > > One thing I'd recommend to your patient > is to study taiji. I don't know of any > studies that confirm this, but one of > the ideas in taiji relates to the density > of bones. And the practice is aimed, in > one aspect, at increasing the density of > the bones. Without going into it, as it > is described by Cheng Man Qing elsewhere, > the internal practice of taiji can maximize > the accumulation of qi in the bones. > > The bones, of course, are living tissue > and from the marrow on out are affected by > the method of use employed in feeding and > animating the body. In my experience > regular taiji practice regulates the > circulation of qi and blood, tends to > harmonize the channels and network > vessels and to generally organize the > body and make it whole. This wholeness > is expressed at the level of the bones > as whole healthy bones. > > I'm also reminded of a notion attributed > to Peng Zhu, the legendary Methusalah > of ancient China who lived beyond 800 > years...in story at least... and who said, > > You can take all the medicines you want > but if you don't practice the art of yin > and yang (meaning, among other things in > the context of this tale, the art of the > bed chamber or sexual benefit) all the > medicine in the world will have no real > or lasting value. > > Of course the sexual function is directly > linked to what we call kidney in Chinese > medicine. So it would be another avenue > of approach. > > Ken > > , " Par Scott " > <parufus@e...> wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > > > I have a patient who is coming in for " balance " . She is 53 years > old, had one of the smoothest menopauses on record about three years > ago, and apart from a little spleen deficiency from a recent bout of > the flu seems very healthy and well adjusted. What I mean to say > is, there are no signs of a kidney pattern of any sort, yin yang, > qi, jing. After we discussed things for a while she mentioned she > got a bone scan and her doctor didn't like her bone density, saying > she was at risk for problems down the line. She is moderately > active, dances does yoga, has a pretty good diet, with what seems > like a reasonable level of calcium intake. > > > > What sort of formulas would be appropriate for this? > > Is there any Chinese research or typical pattern breakdowns? > > Since this kind of thing would probably involve the kidney, and > there are no kidney signs that I can define at this point, should I > treat kidney anyway on the aging=progressive decline of jing theory? > > > > As always, thanks for the help, > > > > Par Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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