Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 I'm not one to shy away from challenges, but I'd like to get a second opinion on something before I go any further. I have a two year old child coming in this Saturday. Cheif complaint is food allergies and excema. I'm expecting perhaps some spleen qi deficiency, heat, dampness. Not quite sure how the diagnosis will look, but the one concern that I have is giving this child herbs at this age. I use the powdered extracts. Does anybody have any words of caution in this case, specifically in the use of herbs for such a young digestive system which is likely already in a pathological state. -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 , Al Stone wrote: > Does anybody have any words of caution in this case, specifically in the use of herbs for such a young digestive system which is likely already in a pathological state. >>> Al: As long as the formula is suitable, it shouldn't be a problem for the child's digestion. Below are the recommended dosages per weight that my teacher uses for formulas made from concentrates: The Amount To Be Taken Each Time: Under 30 pounds: 125mg (1/4 500mg capsule or tablet) 30-50 pounds: 250mg (1/2 500mg capsule or tablet) 50-100 pounds: 500mg (one 500mg capsule or tablet) 100-150 pounds: 1,000mg (two 500mg capsules or tablets) 150-200 pounds: 1,500mg (three 500mg capsules or tablets) 200-250 pounds: 2,000mg (four 500mg capsules or tablets) 250-300 pounds: 2,500mg (five 500mg capsules or tablets) Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Al - If there is an area I have had trouble with powders, it is with people who have gut allergy issues - I presume due to starch based binders. Dr Shen would often prescribe a mild water based solution of lu lu tong for pediatric cases such as this. Will > I have a two year old child coming in this Saturday. Cheif complaint is > food allergies and excema. > > I'm expecting perhaps some spleen qi deficiency, heat, dampness. Not > quite sure how the diagnosis will look, but the one concern that I have > is giving this child herbs at this age. > > I use the powdered extracts. > > Does anybody have any words of caution in this case, specifically in the > use of herbs for such a young digestive system which is > likely already > in a pathological state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Cool, I might send mom home with both. See which works better. Was there a particular presentation that Dr. Shen looked for in these food allergies? WMorris116 wrote: > > Al - > > If there is an area I have had trouble with powders, it is with people who have gut allergy issues - I presume due to starch based binders. Dr Shen would often prescribe a mild water based solution of lu lu tong for pediatric cases such as this. > > Will > > > I have a two year old child coming in this Saturday. Cheif complaint is > > food allergies and excema. > > > > I'm expecting perhaps some spleen qi deficiency, heat, dampness. Not > > quite sure how the diagnosis will look, but the one concern that I have > > is giving this child herbs at this age. > > > > I use the powdered extracts. > > > > Does anybody have any words of caution in this case, specifically in the > > use of herbs for such a young digestive system which is > > likely already > > in a pathological state. > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I don't want to open a big can of di long here, but does non-genetically modified wheat fall into your 'no' category? I assume you are talking about wheat allergies / sensitivities? I thought that I had heard that people with wheat allergies didn't have a problem with non gmo wheat. Somebody Had mentioned that there are some German varieties of wheat that were ok for people with wheat problems. Geoff -- " Simon " <s.becker AW: 2 year old allergies Al, Prescribing herbs to a two year old has never presented as a problem to me. I generally prescribe raw herbs to children as young as one or two months old. My own 3 months old daughter had chickenpox a few weeks ago. I prescribed her some medicine and she was well in two days. Children need small doages and generally respond extremely quickly. Most important, don't overtreat. Just a push in the right direction is enough. However, I need to add that this is only the case if the diet is correct. There is nothing more important than a healthy diet for young children. This means: no sugar (no fruit juice, candy, etc.), no wheat, no dairy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Al, It sounds like you may be dealing with a case of accumulation disorder (ji zhi), extremely common in infants and small children. Basically a feeding disorder at the root of a large number of infant illnesses, it is simply an inability of the delicate digestive system of the child to cope with the amount of food it is called on to process. When very small, infants are essentially feeding tubes dedicated to converting food into baby at an astonishing rate. Their digestive systems are working at capacity and are overtaxed very easily. Feeding too much food too quickly, or giving hard to digest foods (as in weaning to solids too early) can cause a backlog of partially digested materials that accumulate and ferment in the gut. As a by-product of this accumulation, Phlegm is produced. Once Phlegm is present, a host of other pathologies may result. Phlegm can gum up the digestive process further causing gastro-intestinal complaints. It can cause obstruction, pressure build up and the generation of heat and skin diseases. It can accumulate in the lungs, ear or sinuses. The key feature is the firm tummy that dislikes pressure and the presence of one red cheek. Easy to treat as long as the diet is attended to. Will Maclean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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