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>

 

 

> i was talking about the amountof information,not just the style of

teaching. the

 

 

> controlled studies I quoted (which I will cite this weekend) were

about

 

 

> information density as mcu as teching style. teach less, retain

more. I am not

 

 

> saying this is right, but there are controlled studies and this is

the consensus

 

 

> opinion of those who study doctoral level education and is the model

being

 

 

> used in western med schools like Jonhs hopkins for over a decade

with great

 

 

> success I hear.

 

 

>

 

 

> Here's a question. we want the public and other professionals to

respect us

 

 

> as the subject matter experts in TCM, especially when we achieve the

 

 

> doctoral level. We need to start listening to the subject matter

experts in

 

 

> education and admit that knowing TCM is not the same thing as

knowing how

 

 

> to teach. If we value controlled research, perhaps that will sway

some.

 

 

> citations to come.

 

 

>

 

 

 

 

I agree but i think a point is, how do we know we are at that

saturation level? of course one can always keep reducing the amount,

why not just teach 10 herbs a semester, I am sure all the students

will know 100% of those 10 herbs... get the point?

 

 

 

 

-JAson

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If one is in school for 8 hours, does some tai qi,

 

 

> practices massage and point location, studies basic theory (quite

demanding,

 

 

> IMO), anatomy (extremely demanding for most students) and then 1.5

hours of

 

 

> herbs plus whatever else is required, cleans the house, sleeps,

eats, tends to

 

 

> life. It just doesn't add up to me.

 

 

>

 

 

 

 

18 hours a week - 6 days a week

 

 

= 3 hours a day in school. plenty of time.

 

 

also when one is learning herbs1-3, the other classes are pretty easy,

point locaction etc, takes little time.

 

 

 

 

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Warren,

This is an area I am interested in, i.e. understanding how other

teachers develop templates for their students to study at home. Can

you share a bit of how you do this?

 

Thanks,

 

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 10:12 PM, wsheir wrote:

 

> My style of teaching Materia Medica is much like Al's and retention

> levels are pretty high from the class, but the amount of work the

> student does on their own is 8 to 12 hours a week.I only provide

> them with a template.

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> I talked with our dean and I do not think this this is take home

> message. I think the total required information is less. But I may be wrong.

 

We could all be wrong. : )

 

I think that you asked an excellent question yesterday, Todd. That was

about how we go about researching formulas and so forth to make up for

what we haven't memorized in our classes.

 

This is a skill that I don't hold back on when I have the opportunity to

work in ECTOM's teaching clinic. I would love to be like the venerable

old masters where every possible herb combination is so hard-wired into

my head that I can write a formula based on nothing but a gander at the tongue.

 

But I'm not there, and students have to be exposed to those tools that

they'll use once they are out on their own. That's why I bring my

favorite books and instruct how to use them given a TCM diagnosis for

the patient. This should be added to any formula writing class.

 

Of course, we all have our favorite tools and no two will agree, but the

concept of teaching students how to deal with the thousands of medical

challenges they'll encounter after they are licensed really should be

addressed in a comprehensive herbal program.

 

--

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

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