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I've had good results also with Wen Dan Tang + Ze Xie Tang or Tian Ma

Gou Teng Yin. You can also add a combo of Ge Gen & Chuan Xiong for ear

microcirculation.

 

One of my teachers said they were researching microcirculation in China

when he was a student. They would use a high power light from under the

tips of the fingers and look at the nail beds with a microscope to see

what the blood vessels looked like. If they saw unsmooth vessels, they

would use that as a clue that there was some Blood stagnation present.

I haven't seen any english language reports on this topic of

microcirculation, but if someone here has, please pass the info along.

 

Geoff

 

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> Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:05:36 -0800

> " Brian Carter " <bbcarter

> Re: Meniere's

>

> Julie Chambers wrote:

> > Meniere's formula in the Volker Scheid book? Would you be

> willing to share

> > it? I have just started treating a patient for this syndrome.

>

> Hopefully this is fair use- Sheid's book is awesome-

> filled with not just ideas but instructive and perhaps myth-

> shattering examples of modern CM... so I'd say get it!

> Bob Flaws reviewed it on the Pulse website, too... check

> the practitioners' page.

>

> Meniere's Dz treated by Professor Zhu:

>

> He believes 80% of Meniere's pts have a consistent CM pattern of

> disharmony; phlegm or wind as pathogenic qi and impaired fxs of

> liver or GB... disordered ascending and descending involving jueyin

> and yangming, liver-stomach disharmony... and he integrates the

> biomedical knowledge of the inner ear involvement, linking phlegm

> to fluid dysfunction in the endolymphatic system.. he argues that this

> phlegm that causes dizziness, described as intangible by CM

> is actually

> tangible phlegm in the inner ear. He uses biomed knowledge to

> affirm and strengthen CM.

>

> Rx: dai zhe shi, xiakucao, huangqin, fuling, banxia, tiannanxing,

> quanggualou,cheqianzi

>

> actions: directs qi downward by regulating jueyin and yangming,

> transforms phlegm

>

> hx antecedants: erchen tang, daotan tang

>

> principles: reg upbearing and sending downward of qi, to treat phlegm

> first treat qi, without damp phlegm does not arise, use of

> diuretics, drugs

> entering liver, Zhu's personal experience...

>

> There's a nice chart in the book too.

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Forgot - one other good herb combo is Ge Gen & Shi Chang Pu to open the

eustachian tubes.

 

Geoff

 

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> RE: Meniere's & microcirculation

>

> I've had good results also with Wen Dan Tang + Ze Xie Tang or Tian Ma

> Gou Teng Yin. You can also add a combo of Ge Gen & Chuan

> Xiong for ear

> microcirculation.

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> Forgot - one other good herb combo is Ge Gen & Shi Chang Pu to open the

> eustachian tubes.

> Geoff

 

I've also heard of SCP + Cong Bai.

 

Not sure if it affects micro-circ, but they open,

the orifices, no?

 

B

 

 

 

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well, there is this, in case you haven't encountered it.

Subhuti Dharmananda's " Salvia and the History of Microcirculation Research

in China " .

It's here: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/salvia.htm

ann

 

 

 

> I've had good results also with Wen Dan Tang + Ze Xie Tang or Tian Ma

> Gou Teng Yin. You can also add a combo of Ge Gen & Chuan Xiong for ear

> microcirculation.

>

> One of my teachers said they were researching microcirculation in China

> when he was a student. They would use a high power light from under the

> tips of the fingers and look at the nail beds with a microscope to see

> what the blood vessels looked like. If they saw unsmooth vessels, they

> would use that as a clue that there was some Blood stagnation present.

> I haven't seen any english language reports on this topic of

> microcirculation, but if someone here has, please pass the info along.

>

> Geoff

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I had good results in a case with tian ma gou teng yin plus wen dan

tang.

 

 

On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 09:23 AM, snakeoil.works

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>

>> I've had good results also with Wen Dan Tang + Ze Xie Tang or Tian Ma

>> Gou Teng Yin. You can also add a combo of Ge Gen & Chuan Xiong for

>> ear

>> microcirculation.

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