Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 I think chinese medicine describes the workings of the body in a very pragmatic way and despite references in texts to spirit, it seems as distinctly secular as western science, yet constructed from a logic that is quite different from western logic. I think taoist texts reflect the desire for transcendence and immortality of some sort. They use concepts like qi, jing and shen in a way one never sees in medical texts. As more and more seminal classic texts are translated into english from many different eras, what is starkly apparent is the decided lack of any discussion of metaphysics or mysticism in these books. TCM may have been codified in the same era that taoism was born, but having experienced both acupuncture many times and qi gong regularly over a 15 year period, I do not think these two practices are impacting the body in the same way (and herbs also do it differently as well). I think they just use a similar language. If one is already familiar with qi gong practice of visualizing qi flows along channels as I am, then one's experience of acupuncture is colored from the get go. I have met many patients who claim to feel some moving sensation when needled, but I have rarely met one who has really accurately traced more than a few inches of a channel. Much less an entire channel or the entire channel system, unless they had already studied qi gong and the channel system. So while I find qi a meaningful clinical term, I do not find anything inherently transcendant or mystical about it. On the other hand, one can certainly make us of qi gong visualization with one's patients to get the type of benefits that have been proven for several forms of meditation and yoga. I may do this with receptive patients at times. And if one is inclined towards facilitating their patients spiritual development, then one can certainly use the acupuncture needles in this way. I just do not think these practices are part and parcel of TCM and never have been. There has no doubt been overlap between those who practiced more than one of these arts, but to think of these things as essential components of the chinese medical system is not correct, IMO. In fact, most herbalists didn't even practice acupuncture. I also do not think spiritual development necessarily leads to the same goal as healthcare. In fact, many of the spiritual teachers I have read about had to sacrifice their health for their spiritual pursuits and those under their care None of what I said diminishes the value of such practices for any individual or private clinic or spa. But I do question the wisdom of giving what are essentially personal religious beliefs too central a place in our professional presentation of the medicine to the public and at the educational level. Clearly there are quite differing opinions about this topic throughout all of chinese history and such is the nature of religious discussions. Issues such as this cannot be resolved and as long as members of the field hold diverse religious and philosophical views, I think the best face to present is our shared secular face, especially given the religious beliefs of much of our market. We all hold to the methodology of pattern diagnosis. that is what is most important. If chinese history suggested to me that their mainstream medicine had been anything but secular, I would not feel on such firm ground with this position. If I felt I was denying something that had always been the core of TCM practice, I would understand that TCM could not work without its spiritual aspect. But when I read zhu dan xi and li dong yuan and fu qing zhu and liu yi ren and qin bo wei and jiao shu de and zhang zhong jing, etc., etc., etc., that is not what I see. I see page after page of pragmatic medical advice. I want to help as many people with TCM as I can and I do not want religious ideas to interfere with this unless those ideas I perceive as religious can be shown to me to be essential to the medicine. -- Chinese Herbs voice: (619) 668-6964 fax: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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