Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Is Hei Dou soybean or black bean? I've seen it in a couple of formulas, but I'm not used to seeing it often. If it's fermented black beans, then I've had it plenty of times in a combination with broccoli and beef... Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Hi Geoff, Hei dou is black bean, not soybean. I don't know it's Latin binomial. I do know that He Shou Wu (Polygonatum multiflorum radix) is grown in the south of China in Guandong Province. The type we have fits the "herbs of literature" in that it is shipped then to one of two villages in Shandong Province for 16-hour cooking cycles in black bean broth. The he shou wu that you see in most parts of America, thinly sliced reddish brown root, is wrong for use in the Chinese medicine of literature but correct if you were trained in a Cantonese lineage. He Shou Wu is supposed to be pure black puffy thick slices that will not cause diarrhea no matter how much you use in a formula. OMDs trained in Shanghai, Beijing, and Chengdu will recognize the pure ebony black-colored he shou wu as the correct one. My sense is that the black bean used in detoxifying the he shou wu is not different from the black bean of the black bean soup famous to our own American tradition. I just asked Dr. Liang who goes to Shandong Province regularly to meet with our agronomist there and the many growers and their families. She says the black bean is not soybean. Nor do I know if fermented black bean used in cooking is fermented soybeans or fermented black beans. I've always assumed it was the latter. I cook with those salty, fermented beans once in awhile, and I've noted the label says they are fermented black beans. I'm noticing that I did not answer your question in a perfectly direct route. I hope that the indirect pathway of answering your question is of some use to you. All the Best, Emmanuel Segmen - Geoffrey Hudson susegmen Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:02 AM hei dou Hi Emmanuel, I sent a post to the CHA, but thought you might know the answer - do you know what Hei Dou is? The chinese is 'black bean', but I saw a book (Chinese Herb Selection Guide) that called it 'soybean'. In formulas, is hei dou the fermented black bean that's used in cooking, or is it actually a soybean? Thanks, Geoff _________Geoffrey E. Hudson, MTCM, L.Ac. 1833 Harvard Avenuehttp://www.AcupunctureAndHerbs.com Seattle, WA 98122206.223.2777 Ancient tradition, Modern healthcare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 , " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote: > Hei dou is black bean, not soybean. I don't know it's Latin binomial. Frijoles negros. sorry, couldn't resist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Frijoles negros.sorry, couldn't resist... Spoken like one who does not resist the dao ... or just the hai dou. ES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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