Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Dear Listmembers, Please find my translation of an on-line news account of the first cases of SARS patients who received TCM treatment in Guangdong province in China Rey Tiquia President Alliance of Associations in Australia Melbourne Australia Tel: (03)94991362 WHO EXPERTS TALKS ABOUT TCM¹S FIGHT AGAINST SARS Ta Kung Pao ( on -line http://www.takungpao.com.hk/inc/print) .April 8,2003 , Canton, China Reporters: YuanXiu Shen and Fang Jun Ming The efficacy of the use of traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) in the treatment of atypical pneumonia (SARS) has grabbed the interest of the World Health Organization Expert Delegation visiting the city. After visiting the Guangdong Provincial TCM Hospital , the WHO delegation commended the experience of the hospital personnel in in their use of TCM in treating SARS . The WHO delegates expressed the view that compared with other places, the TCM hospital on the average , has reduced the period of hospitalization as well as the curative time of patients suffering from the disease . In particular, they have provided valuable experience in the treatment of this disease. Yesterday morning, the WHO expert Mr. James Macguire especially paid the hospital a visit to exchange opinions with the staff of the hospital in the TCM treatment of SARS. Fifteen years ago, Mr. Macguire was in Canton to investigate the use of TCM in the treatment of dengue fever. He has a deep impression of his visit then. He said , : ³ traditional medicine has a history of a couple thousand years of history. This time, in coming to the provincial hospital with an open mind, I am looking forward to find if there are new treatment methods that TCM is using in dealing with SARS.² Based upon the opinion of experts (TCM) the clinical pattern ( zheng hou ) of SARS patients found in Guangdong province corresponds with the features of Ling Nan (this refers to the moutain regions of Southern China which is hot, humid and foggy) Warm Febrile diseases ( wen bing) . Warm febrile diseases are a common infectious diseases which normally occurs during the spring season. . The pathoetiology ( bing yin) is ŒWind heat¹ feng re and Œwarm heat¹ wen re patho- heteropathies bing xie invading the body. The director of the hospital Lu Yu Po reported that from January 7th to April 5th of this year, the hospital treated 112 SARS patients. The hospital also invited renowned and veteran TCM experts from TCM universities from Beijing, Changchun, Canton as well Western medical experts from the Canton Respiratory Disease Research Centre to do coordinated consultations (with patients and among each other) and decide on a clinical treatment plan for the SARS patients. In this way, there is integration between TCM and biomedicine systems of medicine . Up until this time, 85 patients have been cured of SARS and discharged from the hospital. Within about 7 days, patients fever is down to normal. And within about 18 days, patients are discharged from the hospital. There were 5 patients who died from the illness who developed complications like heart diseases and kidney failure and did not respond to treatment. On the basis of the medical personnel of the hospital who have summed-up their collective experience, most of SARS patients exhibit symptoms of headache, persistent high fever, vomiting etc. In the face of this situation and in combination with Western drugs, the method of TCM treatment is adopted. This method clearly can improve the symptoms, alleviate the suffering of the patient, and enhance their recovery. As to the earlier 15 patients, the method of herbal treatment on the basis of clinical pattern differentiation was adopted. Excellent results were achieved. In addition, those who had acute and extensive lung inflammation , after the administration of the herbal preparation, there was marked absorption of the inflammation effusion which reduced any sequelae hou yi zheng from the disease. Through the treatment of the more than a hundred SARS patients, the hospital medical personnel after summing up their experience believed that the mechanism for the TCM treatment of SARS is : anti-viral; regulate the body¹s immune state; reduce inflammatory response; reduce immunological and pathological damage; and protect the histological and cellular functions. Chinese herbs can improve the patient¹s symptoms. First of all it can bring down fever, ,vomiting etc. and other symptoms of slight toxic effects. In addition they can improve symptoms of nausea, vomiting, diarrhoeia and loss of appetite. Finally, they can also increase the body¹s vigor, and markedly reduce the feeling of tiredness and fatigue. On the basis of the patients clinical condition, the hospital summed-up the concrete treatment plan into four stages : Early stage: Herbs that can cool heat and dispel dampness and enliven blood flow are used This will promote the absorption of lung inflammatory effusion and reduce sequelae. Middle Stage: Cool heat and dispel dampness. High Climactic Stage: Expel the heteropathies qu xie (of wind heat) Late Stage : Support the Zheng Qi ( medicatrix naturae) while expelling the heteropathies . Pay attention to transforming the dampness and removing blood stasis hua shi qu yu On the basis of lessons drawn from others people¹s mistakes ( medical personnel suffering from mutual collective infection) .the Guangdong TCM Hospital placed some efforts on enhancing the body resistance of their personnel. Aside from administering conventional medication, health personnel also given American Ginseng juice Xi Yang Shen shui which are Chinese herbs that can expel the heteropathies and strengthen the spleen. In the past the hospital had two of it¹s personnel who got infected However, after taking precautionary measures and drinking preventative Chinese herb decoction no health personnel have been infected since. Mr. Macguire commended the hospital for the above treatment methods that have been adopted. He thinks they sound pretty innovative . His deepest impression is that of the shortening of the hospitalization time and fever time for SARS patients who underwent the treatment. He was very interested in the the preventative method of taking American Ginseng Juice to boost the body¹s immune system. He thinks that this is a very good experience. The experience of using TCM in the treatment of SARS is very valuable. This has to be subjected to further research in the future. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Rey: Thanks. Excellent work. We needed something more than just speculation about these problems. Jim Ramholz WHO EXPERTS TALKS ABOUT TCM¹S FIGHT > AGAINST SARS > > Ta Kung Pao ( on -line http://www.takungpao.com.hk/inc/print) .April 8,2003 > , Canton, China Reporters: YuanXiu Shen and Fang Jun Ming > > The efficacy of the use of traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) in the > treatment of atypical pneumonia (SARS) has grabbed the interest of the > World Health Organization Expert Delegation visiting the city. After > visiting the Guangdong Provincial TCM Hospital , the WHO delegation > commended the experience of the hospital personnel in in their use of TCM in > treating SARS . The WHO delegates expressed the view that compared with > other places, the TCM hospital on the average , has reduced the period of > hospitalization as well as the curative time of patients suffering from the > disease . In particular, they have provided valuable experience in the > treatment of this disease. > > Yesterday morning, the WHO expert Mr. James Macguire especially paid > the hospital a visit to exchange opinions with the staff of the hospital in > the TCM treatment of SARS. Fifteen years ago, Mr. Macguire was in Canton to > investigate the use of TCM in the treatment of dengue fever. He has a deep > impression of his visit then. He said , : ³ traditional medicine has a > history of a couple thousand years of history. This time, in coming to the > provincial hospital with an open mind, I am looking forward to find if > there are new treatment methods that TCM is using in dealing with SARS.² > > Based upon the opinion of experts (TCM) the clinical pattern ( zheng > hou ) of SARS patients found in Guangdong province corresponds with the > features of Ling Nan (this refers to the moutain regions of Southern China > which is hot, humid and foggy) Warm Febrile diseases ( wen bing) . Warm > febrile diseases are a common infectious diseases which normally occurs > during the spring season. . The pathoetiology ( bing yin) is ŒWind heat¹ > feng re and Œwarm heat¹ wen re patho- heteropathies bing xie invading the > body. > > The director of the hospital Lu Yu Po reported that from January 7th > to April 5th of this year, the hospital treated 112 SARS patients. The > hospital also invited renowned and veteran TCM experts from TCM universities > from Beijing, Changchun, Canton as well Western medical experts from the > Canton Respiratory Disease Research Centre to do coordinated consultations > (with patients and among each other) and decide on a clinical treatment > plan for the SARS patients. In this way, there is integration between TCM > and biomedicine systems of medicine . > > Up until this time, 85 patients have been cured of SARS and discharged > from the hospital. Within about 7 days, patients fever is down to normal. > And within about 18 days, patients are discharged from the hospital. There > were 5 patients who died from the illness who developed complications like > heart diseases and kidney failure and did not respond to treatment. > > > > On the basis of the medical personnel of the hospital who have > summed-up their collective experience, most of SARS patients exhibit > symptoms of headache, persistent high fever, vomiting etc. In the face of > this situation and in combination with Western drugs, the method of TCM > treatment is adopted. This method clearly can improve the symptoms, > alleviate the suffering of the patient, and enhance their recovery. > > As to the earlier 15 patients, the method of herbal treatment on the > basis of clinical pattern differentiation was adopted. Excellent results > were achieved. In addition, those who had acute and extensive lung > inflammation , after the administration of the herbal preparation, there was > marked absorption of the inflammation effusion which reduced any sequelae > hou yi zheng from the disease. > > Through the treatment of the more than a hundred SARS patients, the > hospital medical personnel after summing up their experience believed that > the mechanism for the TCM treatment of SARS is : anti-viral; regulate the > body¹s immune state; reduce inflammatory response; reduce immunological and > pathological damage; and protect the histological and cellular functions. > > Chinese herbs can improve the patient¹s symptoms. First of all it can > bring down fever, ,vomiting etc. and other symptoms of slight toxic > effects. In addition they can improve symptoms of nausea, vomiting, > diarrhoeia and loss of appetite. Finally, they can also increase the body¹s > vigor, and markedly reduce the feeling of tiredness and fatigue. > > On the basis of the patients clinical condition, the hospital summed-up > the concrete treatment plan into four stages : > > Early stage: Herbs that can cool heat and dispel dampness and enliven blood > flow > are used This will promote the absorption of lung > inflammatory > effusion and reduce sequelae. > > Middle Stage: Cool heat and dispel dampness. > > High Climactic Stage: Expel the heteropathies qu xie (of wind heat) > > Late Stage : Support the Zheng Qi ( medicatrix naturae) while expelling the > heteropathies . Pay attention to transforming the dampness > and > removing blood stasis hua shi qu yu > > On the basis of lessons drawn from others people¹s mistakes ( medical > personnel suffering from mutual collective infection) .the Guangdong TCM > Hospital placed some efforts on enhancing the body resistance of their > personnel. Aside from administering conventional medication, health > personnel also given American > > > Ginseng juice Xi Yang Shen shui which are Chinese herbs that can expel the > heteropathies and strengthen the spleen. > > In the past the hospital had two of it¹s personnel who got infected > However, after taking precautionary measures and drinking preventative > Chinese herb decoction no health personnel have been infected since. > > Mr. Macguire commended the hospital for the above treatment methods > that have been adopted. He thinks they sound pretty innovative . His deepest > impression is that of the shortening of the hospitalization time and fever > time for SARS patients who underwent the treatment. He was very interested > in the the preventative method of taking American Ginseng Juice to boost the > body¹s immune system. He thinks that this is a very good experience. The > experience of using TCM in the treatment of SARS is very valuable. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Rey, Jim, and All, , " James Ramholz " <jramholz> wrote: > Rey: > > Thanks. Excellent work. We needed something more than just > speculation about these problems. > I've been talking with people both in Chinese media outlets (and the government bureaus responsible for their operation) and various public health facilities about the SARS problem here in Beijing extensively over the past couple of weeks. Yesterday, a colleague at the TV station where I'm working reviewed her preliminary notes with me from an interview she conducted with a TCM doctor a couple of days ago. He pointed out to her that far from being a " new disease " what has been labelled SARS or atypical pneumonia is likely something that has been around for a long time, which has recently found conditions in which it could emerge and express itself. He pointed to the fact that Guangdong had an atypically cold winter followed by a fast warming in the early spring. He stressed that the treatment strategy should focus on harmonization with the seasonal changes rather than eradication of pathogens. I've been concerned with the tendency, both in discussion on this list and with people here in Beijing, to view the potential contribution of TCM to dealing with SARS as an extension of the Western pharmaceutical search for " effective medications " to the virtual exclusion of, well, speculation about the problem and the kind of adjustments that can be made once the puzzle of illness has been solved using the appropriate diagnostic and therpeutic tools available in Chinese medicine. We are going to do an extensive videotaped interview with this doctor next week, if all goes according to plan; and I will summarize it and post it. I'm hoping that he will articulate his approach in enough detail to provide an alternate map towards dealing with SARS. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Ken, This is just what I wanted to hear. It certainly is consistent with what I know of Chinese medicine and classical theory from the Nei Jing onwards to wen bing xue about seasonal abnormalities and epidemic disease. It was most interesting to me to hear about how this physician connected the symptoms of this condition with abnormal seasonal conditions in Guangdong province. We need somehow to develop some way to analyze biomedical data on disease without compromising the structure of what Chinese medicine does uniquely well. I'd be interested further in what diagnostic and treatment strategies this physician used. On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 04:51 PM, dragon90405 wrote: > > He pointed out to her that far from > being a " new disease " what has been > labelled SARS or atypical pneumonia > is likely something that has been > around for a long time, which has > recently found conditions in which > it could emerge and express itself. > > He pointed to the fact that Guangdong > had an atypically cold winter followed > by a fast warming in the early spring. > > He stressed that the treatment strategy > should focus on harmonization with the > seasonal changes rather than eradication > of pathogens. > > I've been concerned with the tendency, > both in discussion on this list and > with people here in Beijing, to view > the potential contribution of TCM to > dealing with SARS as an extension of > the Western pharmaceutical search for > " effective medications " to the virtual > exclusion of, well, speculation about > the problem and the kind of adjustments > that can be made once the puzzle of > illness has been solved using the > appropriate diagnostic and therpeutic > tools available in Chinese medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Z'ev, > We need somehow to develop some way to analyze biomedical data on > disease without compromising the structure of what Chinese medicine > does uniquely well. Agreed. We also need to develop the tools that will allow the application of the functionality of what Chinese medicine does uniquely well to be available to contemporary researchers and clinicians, regardless of their prior training and background. > > I'd be interested further in what diagnostic and treatment strategies > this physician used. I'll be focusing on this in our interview next week. If you or anyone else has specific questions you'd like to get answers to, please pass them on. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Ken, Specifically: 1) how he observed his patients with the disease in terms of symptoms, signs and development 2) how the epidemic developed in resonance with the unusual weather changes 3) his prescriptions and/or acumoxa treatment 4) Successes and failures of SARS with CM treatment 5) why he thinks that SARS is not a new disease ( I suspect he is correct). Thanks, On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 06:16 PM, dragon90405 wrote: >> I'd be interested further in what diagnostic and treatment > strategies >> this physician used. > > I'll be focusing on this in our interview > next week. If you or anyone else has > specific questions you'd like to get > answers to, please pass them on. > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 , " dragon90405 " wrote: > He stressed that the treatment strategy > should focus on harmonization with the > seasonal changes rather than eradication > of pathogens. Ken: This sounds very promising. Can you get him to express the character of the problem in more detailed terms of Wen Bing, SHL, and/or general pattern differentiation? And is there anything in the pulses of SARS patients that uniquely defines the disorder? If he knows other herbal formulas that have been helpful, please post them. Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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