Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 When we had our first daughter, my wife who is from Tian Jin, China stayed mostly in bed for 30 days. Cooking etc was done by her sister. Her mother was also there helping. They made a lot (a lot) of fresh fish and pork soup. I was able to get fresh fish daily from the local sport fisherman since I live in Santa Cruz and I'm really nice guy. They really cooked the fish (mostly heads) really a long time and the oil was thick on top of the soup. Definitely my wife did not even think about any marathons. But California women, IMHO, want their figure back NOW... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:56:02 -0400 Marnae Ergil <marnae Re: RE: c-section They really should not be concerned with weight loss in the first month - it isn't good for them to start exercising etc. that quickly after giving birth - they have just run the Boston Marathon and lost blood as well. They need to build - and, although supplementing formulae may not seem like the best thing to lose weight, if they don't do this, they may not have the qi that they need later. Also, if they breast feed they will find that they lose weight the first month anyway and then it is mostly a matter of toning. Marnae I think it is more of a southern tradition, although I'm not sure - definitely a bit of a folk tradition but I did it after my second child (4 months ago) and well, who knows? Ingredients: Sweetened black vinegar sauce(I used Pat Chun brand) (4.8L) Black rice vinegar (about 1/2 L) Ginger 3 kg sliced 10 boiledEggs 2 Pork Trotters (feet) (chopped into about 20 pieces) Remove skin from ginger, slice and crush slightly. Put in about 4 L of of Sweetened vinegar sauce and boil. Simmer for 2 hours. Ginger should be fully covered while boiled - keep adding the vinegar sauce as needed. Blanch the pork pieces in boiling water and then wash in cold water, removing some of the fat. Add pork to the stew with the Black rice vinegar and the rest of the sweet black vinegar. boil for 30 minutes. Add peeled & boiled eggs. Then let it sit for 10 days or so (while you are taking the sheng hua tang?). Drink and eat 2 times per day. Use only stainless steel, porcelain or glass to cook. Refrigerate and heat when ready to use. If kept for more than a week, reheat the whole lot once/week. Mine was made by the aunt of a friend and it was a huge amount - very sweet and pigs feet are sort of icky. It's the kind of thing that you could make and then give a smaller portion to your patients - I couldn't get it all down. My friend and I are hoping to do some interviews and write a short article about it soon - Essentially it is warming, strengthening to the spleen and builds blood. Marnae --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 4/18/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Ed, Your wife should breastfeed exclusively as long as possible and continue to breastfeed for at least one year, and longer if possible. There are so many benefits of breastfeeding to both baby AND mom. The daily caloric intake recommended for breastfeeding moms is actually higher than for pregnant moms (600 more calories per day versus 300 calories per day). So the weight doesn't come off immediately but more and more comes off the longer you breastfeed. Colleen Ps. Congratulations Message: 1 Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:52:39 -0700 " Ed Kasper LAc. www.HappyHerbalist.com " <eddy RE: c-section My wife and I are expecting our second daughter July 4. All appears well thankfully. A VERY common question I get is " what herbal formula is good for _weight loss_ after delivery " . It seems most western women are not concerned with recovery after, but think of losing weight. Qi and Blood Tonics don't seem to go hand in hand here. Maciocia OB & Gyn book does not deal with that issue. (Great Book) Methinks, the herbal pharmaceuticals would come up with some standard formulas for addressing this as the market is clearly there. Ed Kasper LAc, Santa Cruz, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 When I mentioned the marathon, I didn't mean that it was actually run, I meant that labor is often compared to running a marathon. Would that we all could stay in bed for a month after giving birth - This is exactly what is/was typically done in China but we often do not have the family infrastructure to do it - especially if we have other kids! Pork, Lamb and Fish are all important foods after giving birth. At 01:07 PM 5/1/2003 -0700, you wrote: When we had our first daughter, my wife who is from Tian Jin, China stayed mostly in bed for 30 days. Cooking etc was done by her sister. Her mother was also there helping. They made a lot (a lot) of fresh fish and pork soup. I was able to get fresh fish daily from the local sport fisherman since I live in Santa Cruz and I'm really nice guy. They really cooked the fish (mostly heads) really a long time and the oil was thick on top of the soup. Definitely my wife did not even think about any marathons. But California women, IMHO, want their figure back NOW... Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:56:02 -0400 Marnae Ergil <marnae Re: RE: c-section They really should not be concerned with weight loss in the first month - it isn't good for them to start exercising etc. that quickly after giving birth - they have just run the Boston Marathon and lost blood as well. They need to build - and, although supplementing formulae may not seem like the best thing to lose weight, if they don't do this, they may not have the qi that they need later. Also, if they breast feed they will find that they lose weight the first month anyway and then it is mostly a matter of toning. Marnae I think it is more of a southern tradition, although I'm not sure - definitely a bit of a folk tradition but I did it after my second child (4 months ago) and well, who knows? Ingredients: Sweetened black vinegar sauce(I used Pat Chun brand) (4.8L) Black rice vinegar (about 1/2 L) Ginger 3 kg sliced 10 boiledEggs 2 Pork Trotters (feet) (chopped into about 20 pieces) Remove skin from ginger, slice and crush slightly. Put in about 4 L of of Sweetened vinegar sauce and boil. Simmer for 2 hours. Ginger should be fully covered while boiled - keep adding the vinegar sauce as needed. Blanch the pork pieces in boiling water and then wash in cold water, removing some of the fat. Add pork to the stew with the Black rice vinegar and the rest of the sweet black vinegar. boil for 30 minutes. Add peeled & boiled eggs. Then let it sit for 10 days or so (while you are taking the sheng hua tang?). Drink and eat 2 times per day. Use only stainless steel, porcelain or glass to cook. Refrigerate and heat when ready to use. If kept for more than a week, reheat the whole lot once/week. Mine was made by the aunt of a friend and it was a huge amount - very sweet and pigs feet are sort of icky. It's the kind of thing that you could make and then give a smaller portion to your patients - I couldn't get it all down. My friend and I are hoping to do some interviews and write a short article about it soon - Essentially it is warming, strengthening to the spleen and builds blood. Marnae --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 4/18/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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