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Does anyone else find it peculiar that there is such a high dose of

ge gen in bentun tang? Complete Rx (I think is)

 

Gan cao 2liang

chuan xiong 2

dang gui 2

ban xia 4

huangqin 2

gen gen 5

bai shao 2

sheng jiang 4

xing ren 1

 

Could some explain the ge gen to me, besides that it disperses the

liver. Or at least elaborate on that idea.. Thanx,

 

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are these grams? ge gen has a higher dose range than the other herbs

listed, up to 10-30 g, so it often is 2-3 times higher than other herbs.

 

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> G,

>

> Does anyone else find it peculiar that there is such a high dose of

> ge gen in bentun tang? Complete Rx (I think is)

>

> Gan cao 2liang

> chuan xiong 2

> dang gui 2

> ban xia 4

> huangqin 2

> gen gen 5

> bai shao 2

> sheng jiang 4

> xing ren 1

>

> Could some explain the ge gen to me, besides that it disperses the

> liver. Or at least elaborate on that idea.. Thanx,

>

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> are these grams? ge gen has a higher dose range than the other

herbs

> listed, up to 10-30 g, so it often is 2-3 times higher than other

herbs.

>

 

 

Yes that part is clear, but why is gen gen in the formula??? IT

raises clear yang, and yet we have an issue with rasing of qi. I see

this as a conflict of interests... There are many herbs to soften or

supposedly disperse the liver, and ge gen isn't my first choice... SO

why is he using this herb???

 

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Bensky's book puts 1 liang at 31.25g, so this would be about 155g of ge

gen... but then you get into different periods of history have different

measurements of weight etc etc. I believe many formulas in the Shang

Han Lun are written in Liang, but have been adjusted for modern-day

practice. I think it's the old liang = new qian. For instance, Ma

Huang Tang originally calls for 3 liang of ma huang, but in Bensky it's

9gm (3 qian). I would read the Ben Tun Tang formula as 5 qian of Ge

Gen... which isn't all that much (releases the muscle layer & expels

wind)... and what sane person would use 4 liang of ginger in a formula?

Yikes!

 

Geoff

 

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> Re: Ben tun Syndrome

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> are these grams? ge gen has a higher dose range than the other herbs

> listed, up to 10-30 g, so it often is 2-3 times higher than

> other herbs.

>

 

>

> , " " <

> @h...> wrote:

> > G,

> >

> > Does anyone else find it peculiar that there is such a high dose of

> > ge gen in bentun tang? Complete Rx (I think is)

> >

> > Gan cao 2liang

> > chuan xiong 2

> > dang gui 2

> > ban xia 4

> > huangqin 2

> > gen gen 5

> > bai shao 2

> > sheng jiang 4

> > xing ren 1

> >

> > Could some explain the ge gen to me, besides that it disperses the

> > liver. Or at least elaborate on that idea.. Thanx,

> >

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