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[Guest guest]

Now I been unable to read the mails on this list for a while and it moves fast, but need to say:

 

 

Rey many thanks for translations that you send to the list, I am wondering how can show via the internet real appreciation?

 

one person in the health ministry is really excited and ask if I could forward it so will translate it into my crude Spanish.

I love you for starting this list:-)

 

I feel so far from knowledge, it is dishearting, since in Guatemala Chinese medicine is not yet developed, and reading things from Rey, Ken, Emmanuel, Marnae, Jim, Z'ev, and and and... the list goes on...

 

helps my heart and the patients because now I study more (in the way I can) struggling to learn Chinese and will invest in paradigms books... This month infact Jieepi!!!

 

The recent letters are far to complex for me, however, by doing, some people will change their perceptions and pre-conceived ideas this in turn will at least contribute to what ever changes may and most certainly will take place with regard to Chinese medicine and more in-depth and wider utility thereof, that is one more reason to study and at least try to learn Chinese medical language.

 

In the west Chinese medicine is a victim of its success just like western medicine is. Since I can "produce" certain beneficial stimulation in my pacients with out knowing classical Chinese medicine and not speaking a character of Chinese medicine it is easier to my ego to leave it at that, the most prevalent view up to now.

 

It is clear that Chinese medicine needs to be studied everyday till last breath, the course I went to was criminal and the people that organised the course should be ashamed! (the course does not exist any more and individual teachers where/are great and sincere)

 

Conceived ideas really affects us all East West, here for example, a great staying power of Western medicine is the doctor greeting (frankly at the hospital and clinics it can get a bit embarrassing doctor doctor...) the idea that one needs to study physics and certain "pure" sciences is another awe that conceived ideas has created... NON of the western doctors remembers physics to a level where they feel comfortable teaching it. My fiancée:-) is currently studying western medicine (for the wrong reasons if you ask me,right reasons to treat and heal...) and all my dear colleagues at work and friends non wants to teach extra the "pure" sciences. But the idea of those that change or not change curriculum's withstands and its not just money but at times the "idea" gives rise as to.

 

The same for Chinese medicine but exactly the opposite that "apparently" one need not study hard to know it this is an idea related to extra curricular aspects.

 

For example in Guatemala a friend of mine and my supervisor-boss and teacher at the hospital were I am volunteering; (I certainly do not agree with volunteering but maybe the doing will bring some funding from somewhere, any ideas most well come...;I bring needles from my privet practice to all places where I work and trying to understand learn more cupping scrapping tunia since often there are no needles and moxa (so encouraging people to get cigarettes which has become a bit of pleasant joke at the hospital); insist that I am a doctor of Chinese medicine.

 

Between "you" and me (how many people on the list?) I tried to explain but she insist, she is a western doctor but more then that a true healer in spirit. However the point is that since she does not know Rey Ken Robert Jim Marnae and others (there is women on this list that has a course of Chinese medicine and speaks Chinese I keep forgetting your name but you are one of my heroes also...)

 

Thus Ana my supervisor-boss knows no reference. This is creating the image that I am some sort of master of Chinese medicine teacher of great skills and so forth and I do say this is not the case but now other people insist too. It is not fare to Chinese medicine in Guatemala but then again there are many with no education in Chinese medicine what so ever that keeps telling me how good they are bla bla...

 

I did infact have some classes but stopped because it became to irresponsible people did not want to study everyday nor learn with me Chinese medical language (Which I am trying to learn). I could not bear bringing the idea that one do not need to study to learn and practice repeating history in Guatemala which now at least has begun to be question in last the US and other places of Which Australia is very far ahead from what I can gather via visiting its Universities (on the internet).

 

I have one student a western doctors who always say that he tries to completely forget for a while western medicine whilst studying Chinese medicine... I tell him that what I can teach is what I think I "know" and it needs to be taken with a bit of salt, and what is more important one day I hope we will have true masters of Oriental medicine here...

 

 

What I am trying to say is that there are things so complex and of course market forces and money plays a heavy part but also conceived ideas, briefly read yet an interesting "thoughts of the day" from Emanuel and one factor there was, according to me anyway, the "idea" of L.Ac. was not conceived by the powers that was and probably still are and hence the timing was not "right". Thus no funding was there.

 

I struggle with this concepts of money and obligations, should I give up on the health promoters (people with no formal education that has had various work shops with regard to health and medicine) because they can not pay me?

 

Should I not be at the hospital for old disable people with skin ulcers and flies because there is no pay.

 

I do not know but will try to look for funding hence if anyone know of a celebrity? or any ideas?

 

I am just ready to register a non-profit organisation. One dream is to bring people from a broad on paid contracts teaching and treating and so forth...

 

But what are our obligations to patients and Chinese medicine what are our duties to our ancestors (that conceived the ideas and hence knowing in the first place) and of springs (to live in a society free from military and reduce ill health - heaven earth human)

 

I am not trying to be "funny" but feel at lost because of lack of conceived ideas on my behalf and no understanding of the great free market (certain sarcasm intended), of course I believe privet practise is good and necessary to balance a more community orientated practice here as ells where...

 

Does any one know of good information how to approach refine once diagnoses and treatment of skin ulcers?

Rehabilitation people with disability (accidents, neurological origins (according to western medicine) sequels of diseases and so forth...?

 

spastic paralysis, cerebral palsy,

 

From Chinese medicine view?

 

One thing that I think could help in changing things for the better is to see our selfs not just as providers but actual users of Chinese medicine forming pressure groups from the view point of being a pacient. Maybe we could write to relevant people and institutions with regard to the creation of a hospital in Phonex stating what a great idea it could be.

 

 

 

Marco Bergh

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

May10,2003,

 

Dear Marco,

 

Great to read your 'wisdom enbedded' postings. It is great to

hear as well about the TCM -happenings in Guatemala.

 

About the translations, we have to thank the Western

mainstream media, the World Health Orgnization, CDC for their

one-sided , disease-centered view of the SARS epidemic which

spurred me to dig deep into the Chinese-language internet

resources to bring out into the open (through the medium of the

CHA ) TCM's role in this epidemic. Mind you, doing the

translations was also a learning experience for me. For one, it

has clarified in me some of those basic concepts in TCM

(literally as they get translated into the English language, the

concepts became clearer) . One of these concepts is the notion

of the Zheng Qi (which I translate into medicatrix naturae

following Joseph Needham) and Xie Qi (which I translate into

heteropathy) . This will be made even clearer in the translation

that I am finishing at the moment. Understanding this concept

virtually liberates one from that one-sided 'disease-centered'

outlook that biomedicine, the WHO, CDC have been wallowing

in. Liberated from this oppressive outlook, one then becomes

really patient-centered. One is liberated from the panic. One then

becomes one with the Qi.

 

Regards.

 

Rey Tiquia

[Guest guest]

May10,2003,

 

Dear Marco,

 

Great to read your 'wisdom enbedded' postings. It is great to

hear as well about the TCM -happenings in Guatemala.

 

About the translations, we have to thank the Western

mainstream media, the World Health Orgnization, CDC for their

one-sided , disease-centered view of the SARS epidemic which

spurred me to dig deep into the Chinese-language internet

resources to bring out into the open (through the medium of the

CHA ) TCM's role in this epidemic. Mind you, doing the

translations was also a learning experience for me. For one, it

has clarified in me some of those basic concepts in TCM

(literally as they get translated into the English language, the

concepts became clearer) . One of these concepts is the notion

of the Zheng Qi (which I translate into medicatrix naturae

following Joseph Needham) and Xie Qi (which I translate into

heteropathy) . This will be made even clearer in the translation

that I am finishing at the moment. Understanding this concept

virtually liberates one from that one-sided 'disease-centered'

outlook that biomedicine, the WHO, CDC have been wallowing

in. Liberated from this oppressive outlook, one then becomes

really patient-centered. One is liberated from the panic. One then

becomes one with the Qi.

 

Regards.

 

Rey Tiquia