now CM to lower cholesterol

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I checked with Curt Jacquot at Pacific Biologic regarding studies done with his formula for lowering cholesterol. He currently only has individual case studies. No large studies. Having said that, he's will to provide product plus placebos to practitioners who want to try to run clinical trials. His formula was put together by Dr. Ping Qi Kang, former chief of TCM at Shanghai Hosptial #1. It was designed to rely on herbs commonly imported into the U.S. from China. Nothing fancy or esoteric about the herbs.

 

Any takers? Give Curt a call at 925-673-2967. He might not support a study of thousands, but if PCOM clinic or another clinic can enlist the patients, Curt is willing to send you product. It might be worth a paper in a journal for who ever organizes it.

 

All the Best,

Emmanuel Segmen

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His formula was put together by Dr. Ping Qi Kang,

>>>What's in it

alon

[Guest guest]

His formula was put together by Dr. Ping Qi Kang,

>>>What's in it

 

alon

ArteClear®

 

 

 

Ingredients:

 

 

 

Latin Name

Chinese Name

English Name

 

Rheum Palmatum Rhizoma

Da Huang

Rhubarb Rhizome

 

Salvia Miltiorrhiza Radix

Dan Shen

Salvia Root

 

Sargassum Pallidum Herba

Hai Cao (Zao)

Sea Weed

 

Polygonum Multiflorum Radix

He Shou Wu

Polygonum Root

 

Polygonatum Sibiricum Rhizoma

Huang Jing

Polygonatum Rhizome

 

Cassia Tora Semen

Jue Ming Zi

Cassia Seeds

 

Aucklandia Lappe Radix

Mu Xiang

Aucklandia Root

 

Crataegus Pinnatifida Fructus

Shan Zha

Hawthorn Fruit

 

Panax Notoginseng Radix

Tian Qi

Pseudoginseng Root

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Emmanuel

thanks

[Guest guest]



 

Here is an email from the Pharmnex study researchers on red yeast rise

Alon

 

 

There were 1.5 mg of Monacolin K or lovastatin in the 300 mg red yeast andrice capsule and subjects took four per day. They resulted in a lowering ofcholesterol of 20% which would correspond to 20 mg mevacor so we think theother monacolins or other substances were active. DH

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Alon,

 

Susan Braverman, one of

David Heber’s collaborators at UCLA, read to me from their published

report that the cholestin study material contained 2.46mg of Monacolin K per

capsule and that there were 600mg of RYR per capsule. This works out to 0.41%. They took 4 capsules, or 2400mg per

day. This works out to 9.84mg of

Monacolin K per day, which is, as you have suggested, a pharmaceutically

equivalent dose. Perhaps this is

why the FDA has banned this supercharged material from the dietary supplement

marketplace. Several years ago I

had a number of RYR products, including cholestin, tested by an NIH-funded lab

for their HMG CoA reductase inhibition activity in a bioassay. The researcher’s results indicated

that the enzyme inhibition activity of the RYR, compared to pharmaceutical

statins, was 1/100th the strength. Somehow the spectrum of information that

I now have does not add up.

Nonetheless, I have just received a shipment of RYR that will be used in

a next study about to begin at UCLA that will look at RYR metabolism relevant

to safety issues. The specifications of the material were that it be the same

strain and potency that was used in the previous study. When I receive the C of A I will know

what that is stated to mean.

 

Stephen

 

Here is an email from the Pharmnex

study researchers on red yeast rise

 

 

Alon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were 1.5 mg of Monacolin K or lovastatin in the

300 mg red yeast and

rice capsule and subjects took four per day. They resulted in a lowering of

cholesterol of 20% which would correspond to 20 mg mevacor so we think the

other monacolins or other substances were active. DH

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Susan Braverman, one of David Heber’s collaborators at UCLA, read to me from their published report that the cholestin study material contained 2.46mg of Monacolin K per capsule and that there were 600mg of RYR per capsule. This works out to 0.41%. They took 4 capsules, or 2400mg per day. This

 

>>>>Stephen

The statement below was emailed to me from one of the authors of a study i believe was at UCLA. It looked like the Pharmanex study (There were 1.5 mg of Monacolin K or lovastatin in the 300 mg red yeast andrice capsule and subjects took four per day. They resulted in a lowering ofcholesterol of 20% which would correspond to 20 mg mevacor so we think the other monacolins or other substances were active.)

Also Like I said the one i use is supposed to be 0.5% which would make it even much stronger. I wander if it is not spiked with phram mevacor. I also seen a product with high monacolin B which i think is lipitor

Alon

[Guest guest]

I wander if it is not spiked with phram mevacor. I also seen a product

with high monacolin B which i think is lipitor

 

 

Alon

 

 

Alon, It is certainly possible that the

material you are buying is spiked with synthetically produced statin

components. There are ways to

differentiate between the naturally occurring and synthetic but it has been too

many years now to recall details other than that the naturally occurring

statins manifest in a more complex and balanced combination of monacolins than

the synthetically spiked material. So if

you looked at an HPLC graph or had credible data that indicated a relatively balanced

spectrum of monacolins then it might help allay your concerns. Personally, I would choose a different

approach to prevention of heart disease than a quasi-pharmaceutical high-statin

containing material. The safety of long

term, high statin RYR use at a high dose is certainly reasonable to

question. In fact if you don’t,

you could be legally at risk since the FDA has “spoken” on this

issue.

 

Stephen

 

 

 

 

 

 

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