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If I may add (even tho this list is about herbs, acupuncture training has

come up in the context of the DAOM) - I'm not sure *which* acupuncture is

being referred to in these discussions. PCOM taught us the zang-fu version,

which for a while I looked down upon, but now I realize it's a good

shorthand for much channel theory, etc... even if it is a bit too simple,

and doesn't always offer the most effective choice of points.

 

Japanese acu only was an elective but presented a coherent system of

acupuncture more overtly based on the meridians. I didn't realize until I

took a class on the Psych fx of pts according to the classics with Philippe

Sionneau and began to study with Robert Chu in L.A. that we had only skimmed

the surface of classical acupuncture. Not to mention modern innovations

(Japanese, Chen Chao, Tong), and the combining of all of these in one's own

understanding.

 

I'll agree that acupuncture may require a different skill set- and perhaps

even a different mental set- but one that overlaps with the herbal

paradigm... and that can be at least as complex.

 

B

 

 

 

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> I'll agree that acupuncture may require a different skill set- and

perhaps

> even a different mental set- but one that overlaps with the herbal

> paradigm... and that can be at least as complex.

 

I agree that acupuncture CAN be as complex theoretically as CM int.

med. However, that is different from the NECESSITY of its being as

complex in order to get good results. Since the mind-set of the

practitioner appears to play such a large role in acupuncture

efficacy, I do not believe that anyone has yet objectively

demonstrated marked differences in acupuncture outcomes based on

either more or less complex theories or more or less complex

manipulations.

 

For instance, there is research using a single-blind protocol showing

that the sham acupuncture was equally as effective as so-called real

acupuncture. Further, in the research setting, neither was as

effective as so-called real acupuncture is typically expected to be in

the normal clinic setting.

 

Bob

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