Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 If I may add (even tho this list is about herbs, acupuncture training has come up in the context of the DAOM) - I'm not sure *which* acupuncture is being referred to in these discussions. PCOM taught us the zang-fu version, which for a while I looked down upon, but now I realize it's a good shorthand for much channel theory, etc... even if it is a bit too simple, and doesn't always offer the most effective choice of points. Japanese acu only was an elective but presented a coherent system of acupuncture more overtly based on the meridians. I didn't realize until I took a class on the Psych fx of pts according to the classics with Philippe Sionneau and began to study with Robert Chu in L.A. that we had only skimmed the surface of classical acupuncture. Not to mention modern innovations (Japanese, Chen Chao, Tong), and the combining of all of these in one's own understanding. I'll agree that acupuncture may require a different skill set- and perhaps even a different mental set- but one that overlaps with the herbal paradigm... and that can be at least as complex. B Brian Benjamin Carter, M.Sci., L.Ac. http://www.pulsemed.org/briancarterbio.htm Acupuncturist & Herbalist Editor, The Pulse of Oriental Medicine Columnist, Acupuncture Today (619) 208-1432 San Diego (866) 206-9069 x 5284 Tollfree Voicemail The PULSE of Oriental Medicine http://www.pulsemed.org/ The General Public's Guide to Chinese Medicine since 1999... 9 Experts, 240+ Articles, 195,000+ readers.... Our free e-zine BEING WELL keeps you up to date Sign up NOW. Send a blank email to: beingwellnewsletter- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2003 Report Share Posted June 4, 2003 > I'll agree that acupuncture may require a different skill set- and perhaps > even a different mental set- but one that overlaps with the herbal > paradigm... and that can be at least as complex. I agree that acupuncture CAN be as complex theoretically as CM int. med. However, that is different from the NECESSITY of its being as complex in order to get good results. Since the mind-set of the practitioner appears to play such a large role in acupuncture efficacy, I do not believe that anyone has yet objectively demonstrated marked differences in acupuncture outcomes based on either more or less complex theories or more or less complex manipulations. For instance, there is research using a single-blind protocol showing that the sham acupuncture was equally as effective as so-called real acupuncture. Further, in the research setting, neither was as effective as so-called real acupuncture is typically expected to be in the normal clinic setting. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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