Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Members Today after much preparation, the entire CHA archive containing over 17,000 messages is now available on the Crane website at http://forums.craneherb.com It is still only available to the same type of readers, licensed acupuncturists. However it is now fully searchable using OR, AND and exact phrase parameters. It searches the entire archive in seconds, not a few hundred posts at a time interspersed with ads. It will be updated monthly. In other words, we now have an archive that actually is fully operational. I'll consider it a birthday present to CHA from Crane. Crane has done a great service to us by preserving and upgrading our archive. We can now be assured that Chinese Herbal Medicine will be preserved for posterity. Please visit to do research. If you want to quote someone outside this forum, please ask permission of the poster first. Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 This is great Todd! Boolean operators enable much more specific searching. Now if only we could access our journal literature that way! Because of the technology Crane is using, you can search for any word that appears in the actual message. Imagine if you could only retrieve words from the Subject line! This is the situation we have now with our journal literature in AOM: we can only search for words (relating to a topic) in the Title fields. That's because only NLM is writing abstract and assigning subject terms. I strongly believe that OM theory is critical to our medicine and I don not want to see our literature described and accessed only through biomedical terms!! It gives us control of the profession in some profound ways; wasn't it Confucius who emphasized the primacy of naming? We have not developed to this point, but it is definitely time! Other professions index and abstract the journals articles in their profession; this enables the profession to have control over the literature and gives the practitioners of the field access to it. I am seeking input from practitioners, OM authors, publishers and teachers on this issue. Please contact me if you would like to share your opinion or learn more about this project. A number of parties I'm working with have begun to realize the limits of doing research with our literature; specifically the Libraries of Oriental Medicine (LOOM), Tufts Medical School-NIH and the National Library of Medicine. But I need your input; you will be both the users and the subjects of this electronic product. Essentially, we're talking about either extending Medline or developing our own OM Medline. I'm eager to talk with any and all of you about how you search for literature and the type of access you'd like. I'm looking for senior clinicians & thinkers in our field to plan the best way forward so that the profession is well served. Best, Della Lawhon, MAOM, Lic AC, DiplCH, Kelly Library New England School of Acupuncture 40 Belmont St Watertown, MA 02472 DLawhon 617-926-3969 Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:50 AMcha better archive searching Members Today after much preparation, the entire CHA archive containing over 17,000 messages is now available on the Crane website at http://forums.craneherb.com It is still only available to the same type of readers, licensed acupuncturists. However it is now fully searchable using OR, AND and exact phrase parameters. It searches the entire archive in seconds, not a few hundred posts at a time interspersed with ads. It will be updated monthly. In other words, we now have an archive that actually is fully operational. I'll consider it a birthday present to CHA from Crane. Crane has done a great service to us by preserving and upgrading our archive. We can now be assured that Chinese Herbal Medicine will be preserved for posterity. Please visit to do research. If you want to quote someone outside this forum, please ask permission of the poster first. Chinese Herbs "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds" -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Della & Gabriel, With your resources and potential for collaberation (as Librarys) the two of you could probably blow the lid off this lists quest for " better archive searhing " . Not knowing the term 'boolean' I chose to garner more knowledge of the term from --what I believe to be one of the most informative websites on the WWW (Wide World of Wisdom)-- " How Stuff Works " . For those of us not suffering from technophobia, the following detailed information will be interesting to peruse: http://www.howstuffworks.com/boolean.htm If inclined to be labeled a 'technophobe' and wanting more of a laypersons definition, then peruse this URL: http://library.albany.edu/internet/boolean.html Utilizing knowledge of this technology, practitioners and students of this list will be better equipped to perform more efficient searches for information via the internet in its present format. Enjoy! Best regards, herb POST 17528 On 5 June 2003, Gabriel Hegyes wrote: My name is Gabriel Hegyes and I am the Library Director at the Florida College of Integrative Medicine in Orlando. I provide the following professional summary to the group for subscription approval. I am an active member of a committee of librarians dubbed LOOM, Librarians of Oriental Medicine. As a result of a two-day meeting that coincided with the fall gathering of CCOAM, several recommendations were made: 1. The development and evaluation of a library survey was assigned to me. The results of the survey are due to be distributed in the summer of 2003. 2. The CCAOM Visioning Committee should consider funding the start-up of a comprehensive intercollegiate Oriental Medicine periodical index, to be coordinated by LOOM and produced by member schools, at least quarterly, in all appropriate formats. There is no such commercial index and our discipline's professional literature is so tightly focused that a commercial publisher is unlikely to ever take it on. Without such an index, our students and faculty remain unable to maximize the use of journals purchased by each college's library. I have 20 years experience in academic, special, and public libraries. Before my library career, I was an elementary and secondary school teacher. POST 17664 On 12 June 2003 , " Della Lawhon " <dlawhon@n...> wrote: This is great Todd! Boolean operators enable much more specific searching. Now if only we could access our journal literature that way! Because of the technology Crane is using, you can search for any word that appears in the actual message. Imagine if you could only retrieve words from the Subject line! This is the situation we have now with our journal literature in AOM: we can only search for words (relating to a topic) in the Title fields. That's because only NLM is writing abstract and assigning subject terms. I strongly believe that OM theory is critical to our medicine and I don not want to see our literature described and accessed only through biomedical terms!! It gives us control of the profession in some profound ways; wasn't it Confucius who emphasized the primacy of naming? We have not developed to this point, but it is definitely time! Other professions index and abstract the journals articles in their profession; this enables the profession to have control over the literature and gives the practitioners of the field access to it. I am seeking input from practitioners, OM authors, publishers and teachers on this issue. Please contact me if you would like to share your opinion or learn more about this project. A number of parties I'm working with have begun to realize the limits of doing research with our literature; specifically the Libraries of Oriental Medicine (LOOM), Tufts Medical School-NIH and the National Library of Medicine. But I need your input; you will be both the users and the subjects of this electronic product. Essentially, we're talking about either extending Medline or developing our own OM Medline. I'm eager to talk with any and all of you about how you search for literature and the type of access you'd like. I'm looking for senior clinicians & thinkers in our field to plan the best way forward so that the profession is well served. Best, Della Lawhon, MAOM, Lic AC, DiplCH, Kelly Library New England School of Acupuncture 40 Belmont St Watertown, MA 02472 DLawhon@n... 617-926-3969 [@i...] Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:50 AM cha better archive searching Members Today after much preparation, the entire CHA archive containing over 17,000 messages is now available on the Crane website at http://forums.craneherb.com It is still only available to the same type of readers, licensed acupuncturists. However it is now fully searchable using OR, AND and exact phrase parameters. It searches the entire archive in seconds, not a few hundred posts at a time interspersed with ads. It will be updated monthly. In other words, we now have an archive that actually is fully operational. I'll consider it a birthday present to CHA from Crane. Crane has done a great service to us by preserving and upgrading our archive. We can now be assured that the Chinese Herb Academy will be preserved for posterity. Please visit to do research. If you want to quote someone outside this forum, please ask permission of the poster first. Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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