Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Here is Ken's message. Emmanuel Segmen - "Ken Rose" > Here follows my post:> > All,> > I've experienced unexplained difficulties posting> to the list the past few days, and Emmanuel has> been kind enough to help me out by forwarding> the following comments for you all to consider.> > Various threads have touched, yet again, on> the theme of yin and yang. What do they mean?> How do they interact in the body?> > Even Richard's query regarding the qi of children> begs the question, and though he hoped I might> be able to tear myself away from my Daoist sexual> magic studies, I find there is no need whatsoever> to do so in order to reply.> > Yin is yang. Yang is yin. Cara's post hit the nail> on the head. One is the source of the other.> They always and only coexist, changing constantly> in complex patterns that emerge in and around> us. The taiji classics include a line that says: every> place in the body has the same xu and shi.> > And here we can understand xu and shi as> emblems of yin and yang. Whoever said that> all this Chinese medical theory lacks truth also> hit the nail on the head. There is no slightest> aim to embody truth in Chinese medical terms> or theorems. They are merely tools.> > Is a hammer true?> > So far as the qi of children is concerned, the> first and for now only thing I have to say about> it is that, like the qi of any and everything,> the qi of children has a source. It is quite> striking to discover how detailed and precise> was the relatively ancient understanding found> in texts on Daoist sexual alchemy concerning> the character of sexual union and reproduction.> > When the child emerges from the gateway> of existence known as the ancestral aperture> it carries with it a small treasure trove assembled> by the parents during the congress of love...> and life making. The contents of this genetic legacy> include: the yin of the mother, the yin of the> father, the yang of the mother, the yang of> the father, and their combined and pulsing qi.> > I believe, as Sun Si Miao wrote, that if we> want to nourish and cultivate life, we must> begin with veneration of the root of life.> The qi of children sprouts from this root.> > If you want to treat patients before they get> sick, teach them to cultivate the root. Then> you are treating the qi of children yet unborn.> > By the way, Richard, can you please contact> me off the list. I'm thinking about a trip to> NZ and Oz, and I'd like to talk about it with> you.> > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 >>>...Yin is yang. Yang is yin. Cara's post hit the nail > on the head. One is the source of the other. > They always and only coexist, changing constantly > in complex patterns that emerge in and around > us. The taiji classics include a line that says: every > place in the body has the same xu and shi. > > And here we can understand xu and shi as > emblems of yin and yang. Whoever said that > all this Chinese medical theory lacks truth also > hit the nail on the head. There is no slightest > aim to embody truth in Chinese medical terms > or theorems. They are merely tools... Ken<<< Ken, Once again you present a lyrical and enchanting view. And you are right that these concepts and words are merely tools to approach reality, not reality itself, just symbols for reading this particular map, not the terrain. I just always figure that there's more to this Chinese medicine stuff than we realize, perhaps even more than the Chinese realize. So I ask questions, not for the sake of asking questions, but for the sake of eliciting what I hope is some real thought. Just what are yin and yang and what exactly do they mean? Or rather, what exactly do we mean? To me, this is the crux of this world view. Blithely presenting yin and yang as a set of opposing pairs and some neat-sounding phrases about how they interact, then skipping on to five element theory, is not the way to teach or learn this way. And that appears to me what most books do. They always want to forge ahead into the "good stuff," clinical diagnostics! Yes, we should tie the teaching of yin and yang to clinical diagnostics, but we should not think we have "covered the subject" just because we have finished reading the chapter. Every clinical situation, everything we experience, everything we see on TV and hear about in the news and media is yin and yang. This is also why I think qi gong should be required throughout each year of each school. It is the direct teaching and experience of yin and yang theory in one's own body. It's not ultimately something you understand; it's something you live and breathe. Joseph Garner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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