Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 In a message dated 7/4/2003 8:21:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alonmarcus writes: there remains signs of cold at the interior that tend to be masked by the heat. This could be a deep tight pulse. >>>>Will would the tightness have a more of a wider quality and include the whole vessels as compared to a more wiry pulse? Alon - I would say yes. The question would be whether the crest of the wave hits the fingers in the same spot each time or it travels medial-lateral with each peak or even cycles over a period side to side. This is how I characterize 'vibrating side to side,' which is a significant feature of the tight pulse (jin mai). As Rory Kerr has pointed out previously, this should not be confused with Hammer's use of the term 'tight' which is not a 'jin mai' but is an idiosyncratic application of the term 'tight'..this is important because Hammer's 'tight' represents yin xu whereas the jin mai represents 'cold' primarily. If unilateral and arbitrary decisions to alter common terminology continues, we will have a further problems on our hands for publishing even minor articles on such materials. I hate to admit it, but this turns into an argument for standardization projects such as Wiseman - however, I will still stand for the 'enjoyable read' that the Eastland Press Wen Bing represents. best regards - Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 In a message dated 7/4/2003 9:51:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: IS this the same kind of thing as using the term "lurking pathogen" to include modern day understanding of viruses? Jason, this is not a modern day concept. It is rooted in classical literature. A tight pulse that is deep suggests cold in the interior - the latency or lack thereof is determined via history. best considerations - Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 In a message dated 7/4/2003 9:51:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: At least Hammer's use of the term is explained and the clinical relevance is mentioned. Jason - what is this in comparison to? I think the term jin mai is well developed in the literature, and it is most commonly translated as 'tight.' We now must define which use of the term tight is implied whenever using it. best regards - Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 > > As Rory Kerr has pointed out previously, this should not be confused with > Hammer's use of the term 'tight' which is not a 'jin mai' but is an idiosyncratic > application of the term 'tight'..this is important because Hammer's 'tight' > represents yin xu whereas the jin mai represents 'cold' primarily. > > If unilateral and arbitrary decisions to alter common terminology continues, > we will have a further problems on our hands for publishing even minor > articles on such materials. I hate to admit it, but this turns into an argument for > standardization projects such as Wiseman - however, I will still > > Will IS this the same kind of thing as using the term " lurking pathogen " to include modern day understanding of viruses? At least Hammer's use of the term is explained and the clinical relevance is mentioned. -Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 is how I characterize 'vibrating side to side,' which is a significant feature of the tight pulse (jin mai). >>>This sounds a little like the bean pulse except broader and longer, correct? (at list as my teacher in china would have describe the bean pulse) Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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