Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 > " danceswithmeena " <jackie > Fri Jul 04, 2003 01:51:37 PM US/Pacific > > Cushing's disease and kidney yin deficiency > > I wonder if anyone can help me untangle the following. > > In the article: > > " Integrating the Traditional Chinese > Understanding of the Kidneys into Western Herbalism " > > Michael Tierra says > > " Also like cortisone, the regular and excess use of licorice will > produce > the edemic, moon face appearance of Cushing's syndrome, a condition > which > can be described as `deficient kidney yang. " > > He definately strongly equates cortisol with kidney yin, and the > following > medline paper appears to agree with this: > > 1: Zhong Yao Cai. 2000 Mar;23(3):164-6. Related Articles,Links > > [study on erzhi pill effects on neuro-endocrinologic-immuno network of > animal of deficiency of yin] > [Article in Chinese] > Cao H, Liang S, Rong X, Wu Q. > Guangzhou University of Traditional , Guangzhou > 510405. > > ....The changes of the animals of deficiency of Yin and the effects > of the > Erzhi > Pill were investigated. RESULT: It showed that rats of deficiency of > Yin, > their hemotic, cortisol, insulin, testosterone, beta-endorphin, > weight of > adrenal and thymus decreased, cholesterol increased and mouse of > deficiency > of Yin, their lymphocyte proliferation and activity of NKC dcreased, > which > might be modulated with Erzhi Pill. > ............... > > Others authors disagree however, and believe just the opposite, and > some > papers seem to support the opposite view: > > [Effect of regulation of kidney-yin and kidney-yang on > hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal-thymus axis in monosodium L-glutamate > rats] > [Article in Chinese] > Cai D, Chen X, Liu Y. > Institute of Integrated Traditional and Western Medicine, Shanghai > Medical > University, Shanghai (200040). > > OBJECTIVE: To study the interrelationship between > hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal-thymus (HPAT) axis and Kidney-Yang and > Kidney-Yin in arcuate nucleus destroyed rats. METHODS: Monosodium > glutamate(MSG) 4 mg/g body weight was given subcutaneously to > neonatal rats > at 2, 4,6, 8 and 10th day after born to destroy the ARC, and Zuogui > pill or > Yougui pill (5 g/kg daily) was given respectively by gastrogavage > when the > model > rats entered adulthood. RESULTS: Immunohistochemical staining showed > that in > the model group the number of corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) > positive > neurons in hypothalamic paraventricular nucleus and anterior pituitary > adrenotrophin (ACTH) positive secretory cells, which stained deeply, > were > more than those in the control group, the adrenal fasciculate zone > disturbed > with increased cells and obviously dilated sinusoid. The thymus > atrophied > with lymphocyte proliferation apparently lower, blood corticosterone, > ACTH > content and hypothalamic CRF level higher in the model than those in > the > control. Zuogui pill could improve above-mentioned pathophysiologic > changes > effectively but Yougui pill could not. CONCLUSION: Process of > pathophysiology of HPA axis hyperfunction accompanied cell-mediated > immunodeficiency may belong to the category of Kidney-Yin Deficiency > Syndrome. > ........ > > I purchased Blue Poppy Press Recent Research Report # 126 hoping to > resolve > the issue, and the true disease (as opposed to the pseudo-condition > brought > about by corticosteroid use) was described as Liver heat, depression, > and > dampness arising from Kidney yin deficiency (as I had been led to > believe)and treated with a Rehmannia formula (as I would have > expected). > > However the action of Rehmannia on on the adrenals seems similarly > confused - several authors seem to feel it has been shown to raise > cortisol > levels, which of course would be the last thing one would want in a > hyperadrenocortical condition like Cushing's disease, or indeed > diabetes (as > cortisol is antagonistic to insulin). The only papers on the subject > I can > find listed on pubmed have no abstracts available. > > Can anyone shed further light on this question please? > > Many thanks > > Jackie Taylor > > > > > Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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