Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 , Steve Slater <dragonslive@h...> wrote: ... > > Other issues about the inherent disrespect of TCM translations written by > native English speakers are obviously the questions of ownership of TCM > and national pride I don't believe in either ownership or national pride as an impediment to intellectual discourse. There is an international standard for such discourse and everyone knows that the communist chinese government impeded such a discourse for many decades. It is not the fault of the chinese people. However they were not indoctrinated as progressive thinkers and thus most are not. Yet there must be a way they can adapt to this evolving model of education in america. Or we can all learn chinese. Problem solved. Not really. Even if we all knew chinese, there would still be the issue of adult educational curriculum design. I believe Ken has succeeded in impressing upon a number of chinese doctors the value of wiseman style translations. But I am sure it took some time, effort and schmoozing. I talk rather bluntly, and I > hope this is not construed as disrespect!! not by me. Chinese Herbs " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Or by me. On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 10:36 AM, wrote: > I talk rather bluntly, and I > > hope this is not construed as disrespect!! > > not by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 As the warden in Cool Hand Luke said, " What we have here is a fialure to communicate. " Bob , <@i...> wrote: > , Steve Slater <dragonslive@h...> > wrote: > .. > > > > Other issues about the inherent disrespect of TCM translations written by > > native English speakers are obviously the questions of ownership of TCM > > and national pride > > I don't believe in either ownership or national pride as an impediment to > intellectual discourse. There is an international standard for such > discourse and everyone knows that the communist chinese government impeded > such a discourse for many decades. It is not the fault of the chinese > people. However they were not indoctrinated as progressive thinkers and > thus most are not. Yet there must be a way they can adapt to this > evolving model of education in america. Or we can all learn chinese. > Problem solved. Not really. Even if we all knew chinese, there would > still be the issue of adult educational curriculum design. I believe Ken > has succeeded in impressing upon a number of chinese doctors the value of > wiseman style translations. But I am sure it took some time, effort and > schmoozing. > > > I talk rather bluntly, and I > > hope this is not construed as disrespect!! > > not by me. > > > Chinese Herbs > > voice: > fax: > > " Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre > minds " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 There is an international standard for such > discourse and everyone knows that the communist chinese government impeded > such a discourse for many decades. What are you talking about? It is not the fault of the chinese > people. However they were not indoctrinated as progressive thinkers and > thus most are not. Yet there must be a way they can adapt to this > evolving model of education in america. Or we can all learn chinese. > Problem solved. This view of the international situation is extraordinarily myopic. This may come as a surpsise, but many Chinese do not actually see absorption into the American sphere as their ultimate aim or as the destiny of their cultural identity. In fact, I sense a growing awareness among many of my Chinese friends and colleagues that Americanization/Internationalization is a kind of disease. I don't know where you get the impression that Chinese are not progressive thinkers. I find that remark highly prejudicial if not downright racist. When was the last time you were in China? How many of these non-progressive Chinese thinkers do you actually know? Not really. Even if we all knew chinese, there would > still be the issue of adult educational curriculum design. I believe Ken > has succeeded in impressing upon a number of chinese doctors the value of > wiseman style translations. I don't think I've ever impressed anything on anyone. Nigel's work speaks for itself. I do know many Chinese scholars in Chinese medicine who use Nigel's work. The Practical Dictionary has now been published in the PRC. And I did have a hand in negotiating the contract for that project. But I am sure it took some time, effort and > schmoozing. > I, too, talk rather bluntly, and I hope you will take it as a sign of utter disrespect... ....not for you as a human being, mind you, but for the comments you have made above that I find not just blunt but utterly unfounded, unacceptable and unsupported by the data I have gathered over the past 11 years living and working in the PRC. In absolute peace and harmony with the hopes that everyone's jazz, soul, and rock and roll expands infinitely... ....until it hits some sort of free trade boundaries. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 , " kenrose2008 " < kenrose2008> wrote: > > What are you talking about? whatever..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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